50 machines versus 10 machines

[Eduardo]

Sure.  Treat it like a simple story problem.  What would the answer be?

[pokeherguy]

I've got to be honest with you I have been avoiding the question. I have however submitted the question on the website "www.askjeeves.com" and am awaiting an answer. Normally I would just ask my 9 year old daughter but she has already gone to bed.
 
 

[pokeherguy]

Just in case my previous question gets overlooked here it goes again.
 
If I got a VP machine with the same paytables as those of any other major casino and I was the only one who played the VP machine, no other money went into it other than my own how would I come out?

[oej719]

The machine would beat you like a drum. Unless of course special plays or hot and cold cycle theories come into play. But it is your machine so all the winning would be yours. Is all this making sense. Lets ask Mr. Dancer
You dont need Jeeves to answer that.
It is now ask.com. It is no longer askjeeves.

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[Benford's Law]

Pokerherguy,
     It doesn't matter how many different people play a machine.  The RNG constantly cycles through a pre-determined "warehouse" of numbers (each number corresponding to a card symbol) at a rate from anywhere from several hundred times per second up to a billion times per second.  It's all in the TIMING!  You have to press the DEAL/DRAW button at the right instant to get the cards you want.
     In fact, I take credit for explaining this fact both to Shadowman and Fa La La La La.... La la la la many years ago on a different video poker forum by introducing the "Art of Intrusion" book by Kevin Mitnick that explained how those VP machines work.  Both of them apparently didn't even know the book existed until I showed it to them.
 
~Benford's Law

[MikeA]

Just in case my previous question gets overlooked here it goes again.
 
If I got a VP machine with the same paytables as those of any other major casino and I was the only one who played the VP machine, no other money went into it other than my own how would I come out?I'll cover this one Pokeherguy.  But first, if YOU owned the machine and YOU filled it, then it would be exactly a 100% return for YOU regardless of the pay table or how much or little you played.Sorry couldn't resist that one.

[cddenver]

What would happen if you bought a VP machine set up exactly like those you would normally play and no one but yourself played it, the only money in was the amount you played. How much would you win year after year? Could you come out ahead? 
 
You wouldn't do as well, unless you set up a comp system at home.   Other than that, your return over time would be the same as in a casino.

[shadowman]

     In fact, I take credit for explaining this fact both to Shadowman and Fa La La La La.... La la la la many years ago on a different video poker forum by introducing the "Art of Intrusion" book by Kevin Mitnick that explained how those VP machines work.  Both of them apparently didn't even know the book existed until I showed it to them.
 
~Benford's Law
 
Ahhhhh, you must be Psychophysical ... I remember you mentioning the article "Hacking the Casinos for a Million Bucks". I think it's good reading for anyone who doubts that VP machines are legal. Thanks again for the reference.
 
However, personally, that is not when I learned how RNGs worked. I programmed them back in the mid 90s as part of my job and I found out they were used in VP machines just a couple years later.

[jm002546]

  It would depend on the pay table and your ability to play near optimal. Winning year after year cannot be maintained on a negative machine. Yourprevious track record on a similar machine is a pretty small sample, anyway,unless you are old,old,old.......

[jm002546]

  So then his question should have been with a coin out would he ever need to empty the hopper.