UltimateX Strategy

[GMIAC]

Is UltimateX a smart game to play, EV-wise?

Would strategy change based on multipliers on different lines of a multi-line game? What about on the base hand?

[atomic2025]

Casinos make a ton from UX.

Your strategy shifts based on the total multipliers in play, plus the expected return of your current hand and the potential next multiplier. It’s a whole different ball game compared to standard single-hand betting with 5 credits. In 10-play mode, the total multiplier can range from 10 to 120, meaning—technically—you’d need 111 distinct strategies to optimize gameplay.

I’m not sure how the exact return is calculated mathematically. Say you’re dealt A2358 (offsuit) on 9/6 DDB, with a total of 10 multipliers in play. If you’re betting 5 credits, holding just A yields a return of 2.367 credits, while holding A245 drops it to 2.021. However, in UX, you’d actually want to hold A245, because it gives you a chance to connect a straight, which comes with an 8X multiplier. The question is: what’s the exact expected return of holding A245 in UX? This feels like a Markov decision problem, but how do you precisely determine the expected return?

[GMIAC]

Thanks for the reply. Is there a tutorial somewhere which can outline how to play UltimateX, with a reasonably good strategy? The number of different scenarios is staggering, and it seems like a fool's errand for anyone who tries to play perfect strategy.

[atomic2025]

Thanks for the reply. Is there a tutorial somewhere which can outline how to play UltimateX, with a reasonably good strategy? The number of different scenarios is staggering, and it seems like a fool's errand for anyone who tries to play perfect strategy.

You can play UX here using the premium training feature, and it corrects your play. It's 100% accurate.

I have tried to study it, but I gave up eventually.

[GMIAC]

Thank you.

[atomic2025]

Thank you.

You are welcome. To win this game, you have to hit nice hands with big multipliers - 8X or higher, which is pretty difficult. Getting Aces kicker or Royal Flush with 2X or less won't help at all.

Good luck.

[Dougman23]

Thank you.

You are welcome. To win this game, you have to hit nice hands with big multipliers - 8X or higher, which is pretty difficult. Getting Aces kicker or Royal Flush with 2X or less won't help at all.

Good luck.

It's all about are you converting trips dealt into 4oaK on a better than 1 in 23 basis. I'll go on runs on 10 hand with 7, 8, 9, or my known record, 14 consecutive trips (not consecutive plays, consecutive dealt trips hands) that did not yield a 4oaK, so 140 hands. I had looped the bartender in on my futility and he asked me to call him over whenever I got dealt trips so he watched a few ...just approaching 7 times the number of hands it should take holding 3 to get a 4oaK (23 to 1), which is ultimately why perfect strategy isn't any guarantee, even for frequent players . Of course, next trips dealt yielded SIX 4oaK for a nice little $3200 handpay (10 cent).

without those 4oaK, you spend every good hand trying to get multipliers...

[atomic2025]

Thank you.

You are welcome. To win this game, you have to hit nice hands with big multipliers - 8X or higher, which is pretty difficult. Getting Aces kicker or Royal Flush with 2X or less won't help at all.

Good luck.

It's all about are you converting trips dealt into 4oaK on a better than 1 in 23 basis. I'll go on runs on 10 hand with 7, 8, 9, or my known record, 14 consecutive trips (not consecutive plays, consecutive dealt trips hands) that did not yield a 4oaK, so 140 hands. I had looped the bartender in on my futility and he asked me to call him over whenever I got dealt trips so he watched a few ...just approaching 7 times the number of hands it should take holding 3 to get a 4oaK (23 to 1), which is ultimately why perfect strategy isn't any guarantee, even for frequent players . Of course, next trips dealt yielded SIX 4oaK for a nice little $3200 handpay (10 cent).

without those 4oaK, you spend every good hand trying to get multipliers...

Switch to deuces wild, then you won't worry about the nartual 4oaK.