Stuff like this just keeps on happening....

[DaBurglar]

If you really believe he's been faking it all this time (I have no idea why you would think that, but okay), then it's a gutsy move. All chips on the table. The whole enchilada. Two mean enter, eat burritos, and one man leaves.

If you manage to draw out tedlark's w2s, maybe next it's Trumps tax returns!

Look, this has gone beyond the point of absurdity....I fully accept my share of this ongoing nonsense with this individual, but it is definitely the minority share. For many many years now Ted just had not, cannot, will not just go his way and allow me to go mine. I KNOW that you know this is the truth. This specific issue with this specific challenge is just the culmination of years of many different forms of the same thing, his dislike of me and his need to always be perceived as getting in the last word. Take this latest thread: sure I posted another link on a subject that has been covered in the past and one that continues to plague society...show me precisely how that should then justify Ted posting what he did? I'm serious, show me how it's "ok" for him to do that, instead of either just ignoring it, or respectfully engaging and debating on the actual topic and not his "non-hatred hostility" directed at me? I can guarantee you that when I first posted this, Ted was not anywhere in or on my mind!!!

When someone finally crosses a line like calling someone else a POS you kinda realize such a person is beyond reasonable behavior, rational thought, and is only concerned with their own "image" and perception in the minds of others he thinks are actually paying attention to him and what he does. There's no winning with such people who won't just drop it and go their own way. Furthermore, what gives Ted the right to criticize or try to tell me, or anyone what to post???? Who the flip is he???

So, to just end it, I proposed what I did. I don't believe anyone wins over 80% of the time they play vp, consistently getting multiple handpays each time they enter a casino. All these years, something just seemed off....what's more, several years back when I first expressed doubt in the veracity of his claimed hits, he was incensed and since then the claims became more bizarre. Anyone recall the time earlier this year, around superbowl time, when Ted allegedly had a session before the game where he had some hits? I then expressed some muted doubts, which then produced a harried, comically rushed follow-up post from Ted about how he allegedly "ran back down to the Joliet location of harrahs the morning of the Superbowl for some promo and in the ten minutes he was in the casino he somehow had another handpay?" Look it up. ...that's one of the many w2gs I'll be interested to see.....lol.

This whole thing is just beyond moronic, and I am embarrassed for my part, but alas, you have to finish what you start....or what others start with YOU. Whether I stay or go, I don't "win" anything...Whether I'm proven right or wrong, tomorrow I'll still be crippled and ache, I'll still be 51 years old with most of my life behind me and the best parts as well, and the country will still be run by the biggest jerk of the last century.

[DaBurglar]

Please continue to think that any pictures I've posted (with the exception of posting a picture for Casino Knight 1 time) are hits that were not made by me. I'll be glad to show you the W2-G's that have corresponding dates matching the pictures but I doubt that would even convince you.

By all means, you find a way to show your LEGIT w-2gs, matching your identity for ALL the alleged hits youve claimed over the past year or so, and here is what I will do:

I will have webman delete my forum account so I can NEVER EVER post here again, and before I go I will post a concise apology to you and admit I was 100% wrong.

DEAL.

Just quoting this for posterity. I think you've both made the terms clear here.

I'm kind of tired of big talk and broken promises. If Ted can back up his claims, I think it's fair for this agreement to be enforced. If not, then I think some sort of consequence in the other direction (to be determined) would be warranted.

I think I can fairly judge whether the evidence is sufficient, if provided. Please be sure to black out any personal information (addresses, social security number etc) for security purposes.

Webman, for my part I'm not asking for anything reciprocal to be done to Ted...such as he leaves or is even banned for a while, as that wasn't part of my original prop. I just want him to avoid me as I avoid him.....we clearly have nothing to say worthwhile to each other, and as both you and I have pointed out in the past, this bullcrap is not fair to the rest of the forum.

[billryan]

This is every bit as valid and more entertaining than the 635th version of " my half assed system of the week will really save you money this time"

[DaBurglar]

This is every bit as valid and more entertaining than the 635th version of " my half assed system of the week will really save you money this time"

What channel is that on, Hulu?

[Eduardo]

This is every bit as valid and more entertaining than the 635th version of " my half assed system of the week will really save you money this time"

[advantage playe]

hey Deburgler,remember what st. Paul said:better to be out of the body and with the LORD that is the far better thing!!so the best is yet to come!!!

[DaBurglar]

hey Deburgler,remember what st. Paul said:better to be out of the body and with the LORD that is the far better thing!!so the best is yet to come!!!

Hey Advantage Player.....what in Theee heck are you talking about or trying to say?!?!

[DaBurglar]

Attention Webman:

Can we agree that there needs to be a certain, fair/reasonable time limit/time frame on this "CHALLENGE"? Ted agreed by posting "Deal" sometime late Tuesday (11/13/2018). W-2gs that we are concerned with here for his jackpots/handpays for the current year (2018) only (i.e. from January 1, 2018 until, say, October 31, 2018) that he has posted about on this forum primarily in the VP Stories part of the forum, that's what I limited my challenge to; They should be readily available since taxes for 2018 are not due until early next year (so in other words, no "I can't find them" or "I threw them out" baloney.)

I am formally requesting that, since it's now very early Thursday 11/15/2018 he's already had nearly two days, we allow him another two days (say until 11:59 pm, just before midnite on Friday) to produce something or respond in some way, which you will then "Umpire or Judge" as to the sufficiency, completeness and accuracy of satisfying my challenge.

I already have my Apology and Farewell post typed up and ready to post, just in case ted fulfills my challenge. I'm fully prepared to leave and fulfill my end of this pathetic spectacle that I am partially responsible for (but far FAR less so than Ted.)

If Midnight Friday is something you do not believe to be fair, then I am willing to give him one more day, to Saturday (11/17/2018) Midnite. But only if YOU truly, honestly think he does not or has not had enough time already to respond by Friday Midnite. I'd like this to be over, one way or another before the Weekend.

[Webman]

I don't see the need for urgency but obviously we wouldn't want this to drag on forever. I will give him one week from when he posted it. I'm not sure what technology he'll be using and if he needs to make physical copies first to redact info and still have a copy for his tax returns etc, then scan and upload etc, I think it might take a bit of effort and I have no idea what his personal schedule looks like. But after a week, I will count the agreement void if necessary.

[DaBurglar]

whoa whoa.....a week?? Ok a week from when, today or from when Ted agreed to the challenge, this past Tuesday 11/13/2018? I understand you don't know his "Schedule" and what not but this is absolutely NOT something that should be difficult or take a long time. it just isn't.....even when you figure the total jackpot claims he has to account for within his posts in VP stories since January 2018 thru October 2018.....

There's nothing on the line for HIM here (as far as I am concerned anyway) because, if he can't answer my challenge as he has agreed to, then THE ONLY THING I WANT is for him to just do what I have repeatedly implored him to do for years, which is ignore me and NOT post in response to or about anything I post, as I will do the same to him. Plus, when you consider his eagerness and his relentless pursuit and harassment of me over the years in attempting to discourage, refute and drive me from posting, I honestly thought he would have his info and response posted by NOW!!!!! I'm serious, you'd think he would have had this done ASAP right away!!

f he does not come through or provides inadequate info, I don't care what happens to him, he can go on posting whatever he wants about thousands of handpays or his worship of Chesty Puller or whatever the fark....just leave ME and what I post be (there was a time WHEN many people had this same idea/suggestion! "Why can't DaBurg and Ted just be told to AVOID and leave each other alone?") What the heck is/was so hard about that?

Ok, There, I'm done.....obviously it's your call, I'll abide whatever you decide, etc.