5,600 RF- DW Pay Table

[BillyJoe]

[QUOTE=damule] In NSUD (99.73% return), the straight flush pays 50 for 5 coins, not 60. I've never seen a deuces wild game pay 60 for a straight flush. There is a poor deuces wild pay table which pays 65 for the straight flush, but only returns 15 for the full house and 10 for a flush (96.77% return).

I figured it was a typo since I've never seen this pay table before either.[/QUOTE]
Ahhh, another 'ABSOLUTE' shattered..  
 
Both you and Dancer REALLY need to get out more..   
 
Just kidding, Shadow, but I react that way any time I hear that something just has to be a certain way in the VP world.  

[damule]

NOT A TYPObeen playing this hidden gem for over 3 yearsI'll try to get a snapshot of the paytable next time


Please, if you can that would be great. The only deuces wild games I know of that pay 60 (5 coins in) for a straight flush are some bonus or double bonus deuces wild games. Where is this game by the way? I seem to remember you're in the Phoenix area mamma. Is that correct?

[shadowman]

NOT A TYPO


been playing this hidden gem for over 3 years

I'll try to get a snapshot of the paytable next time



 
It would be a gem ..,. 100.83% return.
 
When I've seen pay tables with high 5oak and SF they usually cut the FH and/or Flush. For example, just cutting the FH down to 3 changes the return to 98.3% and if the flush is also cut by 1 the game is a paltry 96.2%.

[mammajamma]

I have homes in several places but this game isn't in AZ. Also, it is a bonus-type DW (even though it's not named that way in the selection of games). There is a payout for 4 D's with an ace...2000 coins for a normal 5 coin bet.As I said, it's in dimes. If you switch to nickels, the SF and 5OAK are much lower.

[damule]

I have homes in several places but this game isn't in AZ. Also, it is a bonus-type DW (even though it's not named that way in the selection of games). There is a payout for 4 D's with an ace...2000 coins for a normal 5 coin bet.As I said, it's in dimes. If you switch to nickels, the SF and 5OAK are much lower.

OK. In that case I believe the following pay table is what you're playing:Double Bonus Deuces Wild — 99.81%
HandPayoffProbabilityReturn
Royal Flush 800 0.000023 0.018095
4 Deuces W Ace 400 0.000029 0.011734
4 Deuces 200 0.000148 0.029604
Wild Royal 25 0.002001 0.050015
5 Aces 160 0.000390 0.062378
5 3,4,Or5 50 0.000786 0.039319
5 6-K 20 0.002055 0.041104
Straight Flush 12 0.004490 0.053880
Four Of A Kind 4 0.064722 0.258888
Full House 3 0.020787 0.062361
Flush 2 0.017904 0.035808
Straight 1 0.041195 0.041195
3 Of A Kind 1 0.293697 0.293697
Nothing 0 0.551773 0.000000
Total Return 1.000000 0.998079 Courtesy: wizardofodds.com.

[mammajamma]

there's no 5 aces   and no differential in which 5oak you getweird, hey?you all can believe what you want  but I'm the one playing the game

[damule]

there's no 5 aces   and no differential in which 5oak you getweird, hey?you all can believe what you want  but I'm the one playing the game


mamma,I'm certainly not disbelieving you. However, video poker pay tables are standardized in the industry. A different pay table can be selected on a machine from the manufacturer's pre-loaded list of pay tables by the casino operators, but the individual pays cannot be altered on select games.For example: If the casino wants to run a promotion that all royals pay double, a casino operator cannot go into a machine and adjust the royal flush payout to 8000 coins instead of 4000. The casino would need to turn on the jackpot feature which summons a handpay and pay the bonus manually.I'm just trying to figure out what pay table you're playing. There may be a pay table out there that I've never seen. I'd love to see a photo of it so I can research the expected return and try to find the game somewhere myself. I'm always open for learning new games and new twists about video poker that I didn't know of previously. Sorry if you take my inquisitiveness as not believing you.

[Lucky Larry]

[QUOTE=mammajamma]
there's no 5 aces   and no differential in which 5oak you getweird, hey?you all can believe what you want  but I'm the one playing the game


mamma,I'm certainly not disbelieving you. However, video poker pay tables are standardized in the industry. A different pay table can be selected on a machine from the manufacturer's pre-loaded list of pay tables by the casino operators, but the individual pays cannot be altered on select games.For example: If the casino wants to run a promotion that all royals pay double, a casino operator cannot go into a machine and adjust the royal flush payout to 8000 coins instead of 4000. The casino would need to turn on the jackpot feature which summons a handpay and pay the bonus manually.I'm just trying to figure out what pay table you're playing. There may be a pay table out there that I've never seen. I'd love to see a photo of it so I can research the expected return and try to find the game somewhere myself. I'm always open for learning new games and new twists about video poker that I didn't know of previously. Sorry if you take my inquisitiveness as not believing you.[/QUOTE]

damule,
I understand the pay tables are suppose to be standardized however; my posted pictures is only one of several VP variances at the same casino. For example, 4 machines side by side-same denomination:

2 machines pay 400/1 credit and 800/2 credit for RF TDB
2 other machines pay 400/1 and 1000/2 credit for RF TDB   

2 JOB pay 125/quad and 2/2 pair;
2 other JOB pay a Bonus Deluxe 400/quad and 1/2 pair

The key is knowing which machine/ which game/ which pay table.

[VPGenius]

The game mammajamma is referring to sounds like Big Times Draw Poker. The version of Deuces Wild in Big Times Draw Poker has an extra payline for Four Deuces with an Ace, but all five-of-a-kinds pay the same.

I have to express disbelief that the paytable is 5-10-15-20-20-60-80-125-1000-2000-4000. It would return over 101% if it were (even if only playing 5 coins), and being a relatively new novelty game, it is unlikely that IGT even made such a paytable available for casino operators to offer. The paytable is most likely 5-10-10-15-20-60-80-125-1000-2000-4000. The reduced payouts for a straight flush and 5 of a kind that mammajamma referred to seeing at higher denominations are most likely because those paytables do start with 5-10-15-20-20.

The multipliers for each high card rank are needed to compute the exact return when betting 10 coins.

A picture of the screen (the entire paytable and all of the multipliers) would of course clear everything up.

[mammajamma]

The game mammajamma is referring to sounds like Big Times Draw Poker. I have to express disbelief that the paytable is 5-10-15-20-20-60-80-125-1000-2000-4000. It would return over 101% if it were (even if only playing 5 coins), and being a relatively new novelty game, it is unlikely that IGT even made such a paytable available for casino operators to offer. The paytable is most likely 5-10-10-15-20-60-80-125-1000-2000-4000. The reduced payouts for a straight flush and 5 of a kind that mammajamma referred to seeing at higher denominations are most likely because those paytables do start with 5-10-15-20-20.

.10-4 on the Big Times game. I often wondered why DW wasn't in the selection of games on VPcom since I was playing it at the casino.If the payout on the flush and full house are 10 and 15, then what would the percentage be?