Double Double Bonus Poker

[BruceinGa]

I can put up with some smoke.  If it gets too bad I walk.
Can anyone recommend a good book on DDBP?

[MikeA]

I can put up with some smoke.  If it gets too bad I walk.
Can anyone recommend a good book on DDBP?You really do not need a "good book" on DDB Bruce.   What you do need is at minimum, strategy cards or a strategy chart for that game with the pay tables you normally play.  Better yet, you should invest in a good simulator that will train you in the correct strategy for that game.There are several threads on this forum that discuss Simulators.  "WinPoker", "Video Poker for Winners" are a couple.  Other's have also been mentioned but most any of them will identify mistakes you are making and after playing with it for a while, you'll have the strategy down pretty close to spot on.

[BruceinGa]

Thanks Mike,
Would it be appropriate to ask about the simulator at wizardofodds.com here?  Is it accurate?
Is there may be some kind of rule about mentioning other newbiewebsites here?
Do you prefer DB or DDB?

[MikeA]

Thanks Mike,
Would it be appropriate to ask about the simulator at wizardofodds.com here?  Is it accurate?
Is there may be some kind of rule about mentioning other newbiewebsites here?
Do you prefer DB or DDB?DB or DDB:  It depends Bruce.  Given that I can find two machines side by side with full pay tables, one being DB and the other DDB, I will usually pick DB.  It has a slightly better ER and much lower variance though the strategy is more complex to play perfectly.  However, if I'm down in my bankroll (I use a very strict budget) and toward the end of my trip to the casino, I might pick DDB simply because of the 2000 payoff on quad Aces with the kicker.  I might blow my BR trying for those quads...and that's okay because I've budgeted the loss...but every once in a while, I'll hit and recover on a positive note to end that trip.By reading that previous paragraph, you'll quickly deduce correctly that I am a recreational VP player....not a professional.Well, this is Videopoker.com rather than Wizardofodds.com <smile>.  I've not heard of any of the more popular simulators that are "inaccurate".  I can only bear witness to Video Poker for Winners though.  It provides more information than you will likely ever use!  The others simulators are similarly valuable and less expensive.  I guess which one you pick is a matter of  personal choice influenced by quality of the graphics and number of games.One of the most important factors you should consider before eliminating a simulator from your list to choose from, is whether or not it allows you to change the pay tables and after doing so, does it alter the "warning logic" to train you on the correct play for your altered paytable and game?  If it does, then it is very likely a good simulator and worthy of consideration.VPW does that and in addition, it will generate a complete strategy chart for most games.SHADOWMAN:  Please chime in here or point Bruce to one of the threads where you have described those other two or three simulators you've had experience with.

[chuck arl]

On my birthday, no less(yesterday)I was playing $1&$2 triple play DDB. AS I was ready to wrap up th day's play, I was dealt a hand 33324. All the v.p. experts from dancer to Fa La La La La.... La la la la to Wily ole coyote tell you to just hold the 3 3's only and hope for the best. Guess what, the next card draw on ALL THREE GAMES was the last 3. Who woulda guessed that?---CWA---

[vpguy3]

On my birthday, no less(yesterday)I was playing $1&$2 triple play DDB. AS I was ready to wrap up th day's play, I was dealt a hand 33324. All the v.p. experts from dancer to Fa La La La La.... La la la la to Wily ole coyote tell you to just hold the 3 3's only and hope for the best. Guess what, the next card draw on ALL THREE GAMES was the last 3. Who woulda guessed that?---CWA---

WOW! What a nice hit; highly improbable but very lucky.I can't even begin to compute the odds of that happening. Congrats.

[Webman]

Odds of the next card being the remaining 3 on all three hands:
 
1/47 ^ 3 = 1 / 103,823
 
Quite a nice hit.  Happy birthday!

[faygo]

This doesn't quite fit here, but since the last few posts concerned the odds of something happening, here goes.
 
The following is something I been meaning to ask all of the fellow posters that aren't "Math Challenged" like I am.  When posed a question on odds, my brain folds up like a deflated balloon.
 
I was recently reminded of it by a response to a query posed to Bob Dancer in his "Dancers Answers" column in Stricly Slots.
 
The question was in DDB what are the odds of being dealt 4 cards to a Royal Flush, back to back. This is how he answered(paraphrased). There are 936 different ways to draw 4 to a RF and 2,598,960 different ways to draw 5 cards from a 52 card deck, or 936 / 2,598960=1 in 2,777. To get these events back to back you have to multiply these numbers, (936 x 936) / (2,598,960 x 2,598960)=1 in 7.7 million hands. ( the guy that wrote the question did not fill either one) Bob ended his answer by saying it is 11.8 times rarer to be dealt 4 to a RF back to back than being dealt a Royal Flush.
 
Now for my story;
 
A number of years ago, I was on a business trip that took me to Metropolis,IL. A lovely little town in the South of Il. The self proclaimed home of Superman. They even have a big statue of him downtown. Ah, but I digress.
 
At that time there was a little riverboat casino owned by Merv Griffin.
The wife and I decided to give it a try. She was off playing her slots and I sat down at an old slant top coin chunker $1 machine. I must have played about 5 hands when I was dealt Ks,Js,10s,Qs and a card I don't remember, tossed the odd card and got nothing. Loaded the machine(coin chunker remember) and it dealt me Ks,Js,10s,Qs and a non- descript card. tossed the odd card and caught the As. (always thought the first one was an omen)
 
Now my question is what are the odds of not only being dealth 4 to a RF back to back, but to have it be in the same suit, same cards, in the same order???
 

[Webman]

Wow.  How about 1 in a bazillion?
 
I don't have the brain power to figure that one out this morning.
 
The only somewhat unrelated factoid I'll throw out there is that the odds of getting the second one were the same as the first.  In other words, AFTER you got the first one, the changes of getting another on the next draw were the same.
 
When you get a royal flush, you might think your odds are infinitely higher that you will hit another one on the next hand.  But they are still 1/40,000.  Of course, if you sit down and haven't drawn any cards, your ods of hitting 2 in a row at that point are far, far tougher so you best get started on the first one before contemplating the second.
 
I'm sure you know that already but it's a common misconception that I thought I'd toss out there.
 
Whatever the odds are of getting dealt Ks, Js, 10S and Qs in that order are... square it and those are your odds for consecutive hands.

[faygo]

Webman
 
I stopped mementarily for a bit of lunch and the thought came to me, that since Dancer accounted for all the draw possibilities in his 936 number that the odds might just be the same. Ergo 1 in 7.7 million? Me