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[Webman]

No, it will be 4 times lower if you are talking the same suit as the first hand and much much lower if you are talking the same order of cards. It also mattes if you allow that 5th card to be in different places or if it's always the last card, etc. I think that's right, at least.  Just starting my 2nd coffee now so the head should clear shortly.

[shadowman]

Once you add in order to the equation the number goes up dramatically. There are 120 ways to order 5 cards, so keeping the first four in order and adding any fifth card gives 47 possible arrangements (the As can't be considered). However, the total number of 52 card arrangements is 120*2,598,960. Now the math is easy. 47*47 over 2 times the number above. Your homework for tonight is to finish this compuation (I'm at a casino and don't have my good calcuator).

[faygo]

No, it will be 4 times lower if you are talking the same suit as the first hand and much much lower if you are talking the same order of cards. It also mattes if you allow that 5th card to be in different places or if it's always the last card, etc. I think that's right, at least.  Just starting my 2nd coffee now so the head should clear shortly.
 
The fifth card was always in last place.
 
Shadowman left one of us homework. What is a calculator??

[Webman]

Is it Pi?

[faygo]

Is it Pi?
 
I heard a rumor that it's squared.

[MikeA]

Subtract Course Rating from your score, multiply by 113, divide by the slope rating.Wait a minute, wrong forum!

[bigboy]

[QUOTE=Webman]
Is it Pi?
 
 it's squared.[/QUOTE]
 
It's Ellio's pizza? Yuck.

[BruceinGa]

[QUOTE=BruceinGa]
Thanks Mike,
Would it be appropriate to ask about the simulator at wizardofodds.com here?  Is it accurate?
Is there may be some kind of rule about mentioning other newbiewebsites here?
Do you prefer DB or DDB?

DB or DDB:  It depends Bruce.  Given that I can find two machines side by side with full pay tables, one being DB and the other DDB, I will usually pick DB.  It has a slightly better ER and much lower variance though the strategy is more complex to play perfectly.  However, if I'm down in my bankroll (I use a very strict budget) and toward the end of my trip to the casino, I might pick DDB simply because of the 2000 payoff on quad Aces with the kicker.  I might blow my BR trying for those quads...and that's okay because I've budgeted the loss...but every once in a while, I'll hit and recover on a positive note to end that trip.

By reading that previous paragraph, you'll quickly deduce correctly that I am a recreational VP player....not a professional.

Well, this is Videopoker.com rather than Wizardofodds.com <smile>.  I've not heard of any of the more popular simulators that are "inaccurate".  I can only bear witness to Video Poker for Winners though.  It provides more information than you will likely ever use!  The others simulators are similarly valuable and less expensive.  I guess which one you pick is a matter of  personal choice influenced by quality of the graphics and number of games.

One of the most important factors you should consider before eliminating a simulator from your list to choose from, is whether or not it allows you to change the pay tables and after doing so, does it alter the "warning logic" to train you on the correct play for your altered paytable and game?  If it does, then it is very likely a good simulator and worthy of consideration.

VPW does that and in addition, it will generate a complete strategy chart for most games.

SHADOWMAN:  Please chime in here or point Bruce to one of the threads where you have described those other two or three simulators you've had experience with.
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Thanks for the reply Mike.

[BruceinGa]

Now for my story;
 
A number of years ago, I was on a business trip that took me to Metropolis,IL. A lovely little town in the South of Il. The self proclaimed home of Superman. They even have a big statue of him downtown. 
 
Since you mention Metropolis, we visited Harrah's there last month.  The only vp machines were on the 2nd floor, there were only a handful and they were in use the entire time I was there.

[shadowman]

SHADOWMAN:  Please chime in here or point Bruce to one of the threads where you have described those other two or three simulators you've had experience with.

 
Instead I'll ask webman again if he could add VP software as another standalone topic (like VP strategy). Once this thread dies off the information will get lost once again if it's posted here. He can even start it off with a discussion on VPfW.