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Double Double Bonus with "SUPER" payouts

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:57 pm
by damule
Need some help figuring out a paytable return for a game I don't think I have ever seen before. It's a 3/5 play machine with denoms in dimes and quarters. You can play it like a normal video poker game with a normal crappy pay table like 7/5 or 8/5 and such for DDB,etc. But if you wager 6 coins per line you get a "Super" bonus for quads or a straight flush. The following is the pay table that I saw for double double bonus 3 play dimes with 6 credits wagered per line (total wager $1.80/deal).
 
RF...................4000
ST.....................700
Aces w/k..........4000
Aces no/k.........1600
2,3,4s w/k.......1600
2,3,4s no/k........800
5's thru ks..........500
FH.......................35
Flush....................25
Straight................20
3oak....................15
JOB/2pr.................5
 
For quarters the return on the flush went up to 40. On the 5 play games for quarters the flush may even have been at 45. I cannot find a paytable analyzer for this game. Shadow? New? any help here would be appreciated.
 
As you can see the paytable for dimes is the putrid 7/5. What I'm most curious of: does the extra coin wagered to activate the bonus pays increase the paytable as it should? Keep in mind, I found this game in Arizona where the regulations are not the same as in Nevada for increased return for a bonus wager.
 
Thanks for your help.

Re: Double Double Bonus with "SUPER" payouts

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:48 am
by shadowman



The easy way to handle games like this is to simply plug the paytable into a program like winpoker, WVP or whatever. If you analyze the game you will come out with 115.86%. However, since it is 6 coins you need 120% to break even. Hence, divide 115.86 by 120 and you get .9655 as the return. Note that 7/5 DDB is only .9571 so this paytable is better than the base game.

Re: Double Double Bonus with "SUPER" payouts

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:40 am
by damule
The easy way to handle games like this is to simply plug the paytable into a program like winpoker, WVP or whatever. If you analyze the game you will come out with 115.86%. However, since it is 6 coins you need 120% to break even. Hence, divide 115.86 by 120 and you get .9655 as the return. Note that 7/5 DDB is only .9571 so this paytable is better than the base game.

 
Thanks alot Shadow. I had plugged the numbers into vp genius and came up with the 115.86% for five coins and 95.71% for 7/5 DDB straight up. However, all my years of geometry, calculus, and parabolic equations clouded my mind to the point that I forget simple algebra: (.11586 x 5)/6 = .9655. Not that I would play this game for anything except simple, quick amusement I appreciate your help with this Shadow. Now, if I can only find this game in DDB 9/6 format we'd be doing ok! 

Re: Double Double Bonus with "SUPER" payouts

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:35 pm
by OTABILL
Mule:
 
Which casino in AZ has this game? Thanks.

Re: Double Double Bonus with "SUPER" payouts

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:43 pm
by damule
Mule:
 
Which casino in AZ has this game? Thanks.

 
Saw a bank of 3 uprights at Wild Horse Pass. Looks like a regular 3/5 play except the top of the machine has the game title as: Super 3/5 play.

Re: Double Double Bonus with "SUPER" payouts

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:23 pm
by OTABILL
Thanks. We don't usually go to Wild Horse Pass. Haven't seen it elsewhere but if we do, I'll post.

Re: Double Double Bonus with "SUPER" payouts

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:23 pm
by stephmo
They have this game at the Borgata also.

Re: Double Double Bonus with "SUPER" payouts

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:24 pm
by BillyJoe
I have played this game at the Grand in Biloxi and at Harrah's in Vegas.

Re: Double Double Bonus with "SUPER" payouts

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:58 pm
by New2vp
This type of game is called Super Triple Play.  It is available on this Web site in a 9-6-4 pay schedule (99.16%) for Double Double Bonus.

Re: Double Double Bonus with "SUPER" payouts

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:14 pm
by damule
This type of game is called Super Triple Play.  It is available on this Web site in a 9-6-4 pay schedule (99.16%) for Double Double Bonus.


 
Thanks New. Never noticed before now.