Royal Flush 3 times

[stephmo]

I was at Harrah's Chester-I won $4500, and the machines seemed loose-either that ot the Video Poker Gods were smiling on me that night-It was a nice casino and had a good variety of machines

[shadowman]

I was at Harrah's Chester-I won $4500, and the machines seemed loose-either that ot the Video Poker Gods were smiling on me that night-It was a nice casino and had a good variety of machines
 
Congratulations! Hopefully, your luck will continue. My wife and I also had a good day yesterday clearing almost $1000 on .25 VP in just a little over 3 hours. Hopefully, our luck will continue also.

[pokeherguy]

{Saying things tend to "even out over time" is erroneous and misleading.  You're not in a controlled classroom when you're at a machine. You play to win money not to hit royals, and if you play correctly you never need a royal to win money over any amount of time. }
 
 
Basicly what I am getting from this statement is you win money each and everytime you play. I myself thought I did play correctly but I in no way can make a statement such as this. Once the correct play is made you are at the mercy of the RNG which has no friends and tends to be very fickle, one day it likes you and the next several times it does'nt. Without royals I would be in a heap of trouble as far as my gaming dollar goes. While I don't plan on hitting them they do come once in a blue blue. I have no idea what game you are playing or where you are playing and it really does'nt matter because there is no way this is true for anyone who has played over a long period.
 
But if you have that knowledge please teach me Obie Won Konobe.

[babybubba]

"Basicly what I am getting from this statement is you win money each and everytime you play."
 
No way. I said I don't need royals to win, but that's only when I win--which is at somewhere over 85% of my sessions right now.
 
"Without royals I would be in a heap of trouble as far as my gaming dollar goes."
 
Exactly, and it's the same old song for everyone who plays optimal-play vp on basically the same denomination and games.
 
"I have no idea what game you are playing or where you are playing and it really does'nt matter because there is no way this is true for anyone who has played over a long period."
 
Absolutely false. My initial game is BP, in 8/5 if I can find it where I choose to be. If that fails I play SDBP with any FH pay table, followed by TBP+ and finally DDB---in that order of precedence. Thees "advanced" BP games allow for some jackpot hits, and structured within a progression like mine, those hits make a world of difference when playing for goals AND if you're able to stick to those goals and quit.
 
"But if you have that knowledge please teach me Obie Won Konobe."
 
I have that knowledge. Many have learned. Just let me know when and where you can meet and I will help you. And unlike the others, I charge no one for my time or expertise.

[rascal]

I don't agree with all of Rob's theories, although as I wrote earlier his columns on discipline have definitely helped me. But I do agree with his comment on Royals. It is, in fact, true, although perhaps not in the manner he intended. I am proof of that. One decent jackpot on a STP that had nothing to do with Royals, still has me positive (although narrowly).
 
And this very fact tends to lend weight to Rob's assertion that VP is a highly random event each time it occurs. How do you factor a single big-hit on STP into the long term? You don't. Stop and think about it. If I am plus or minus 2% on a regular single line DB machine and then I step away from the machine and play one hand on STP and hit big and then return to my original machine, my average for that machine may not change but my session (and annual) average is blown all the way to hell --- because of one unique unprojected, unprojectible event.
 
I asked a highly respected published VP columnist (not Rob) who plays a lot at one of the same casinos I do what his take was on it and he responded without hesitation: "If you had stepped away and hit big on a slot machine it would not change your VP average but it would change your gambling average. STP has an additional layer of uncontrollable randomness built into it and that makes it more like a slot than a VP machine."
 
Oh, ok. (???)
 
Random happens. It cannot always be projected. Why do you think our mutual fund folks spend so much time (legally) advising us that past performance is not an indicator of future performance? Why did I make an absolute killing on a mutual fund with heavy investments in petroleum related issues last year? Because of random worldwide events that could not be projected.
 
The casino can reasonably project what is going to happen, but please understand that these projections are based on the experiences of thousands and thousands of players over an entire fiscal year. In the case of a larger casino, we're talking about somewhere between 5 and 10 million individual gaming experiences per fiscal year. It is highly unlikely that the results of an individual player will exactly match the average results for a long, long time. Eventually, yes, they will match the average, but the biggest difference between being a Singerite and a Dancerite is that there is a huge variance in the definition of the time required to match the average. Fa La La La La.... La la la la seems to be more into "infinity is the time required and so take advantage of unexpected randomness (luck)", while Dancer is more into the theory that "each session is part of one big session that will produce a predictible average result."

[EdLyons]

Aside from not having any luck; what did you think of Harrah's Chester? Did you see any decent paytables on video poker? Just curious as i am passing through the vicinity pretty soon.
 
Paytables are about the same as Harrahs  in AC. The casino is airy with a lot VP.  Might be a little scarey leaving at night (I was there in the afternoon).

[bigboy]

Thanks for the info, Ed.

[pokeherguy]

{No way. I said I don't need royals to win, but that's only when I win--which is at somewhere over 85% of my sessions right now.}
 
I started out rough playing VP but the last couple of years have been okay as I have came out ahead in 2005 & 2006 not a great amount compared to how many W2-G's I collected. But none the less ahead is better than a lot of folks can say. In the year 2006 I would have been slightly down playing VP had it not been for a couple of very lucky slot jackpots that put me in the positive for the year. The truth is as far as my VP sessions go I am far below 85% win percentage more like 25%, I play hard when I go which is often and very few sessions end up with me breaking even or plus or minus a couple of hundred. I either leave broke or well ahead but none of it meens anything because it seems to level out as far as wins and losses go. When I have losing sessions I can't think of anything that I could have done to change that fact. I play at the Grand Casino in Tunica, Ms. and my favorite game is $1 & $2 Triple Bonus at max and I've had as many as 8 losing sessions in a row but I've always stayed true to my style of play and it tends to even itself out. But I would like to know more about how 85% win percentage works.

[OldSowBreath]

All because I wanted a hamburger....
I was staying at Paris( Vegas), and it was around 10:30 am and I was dying for a hamburger.  Of course, a hamburger at Paris is probably $20.00, not including the sesame seeds, so I took a stroll through Ballys and across the street to Barbary Coast (Yikes!).  I figured they would have a decent price burger.  Well, they hadn't set up for lunch yet, I needed to wait about 10 minutes.  So, I sat down at a JOB machine, put in $20.00 on .50 and about 3 hands later was dealt 3 to a royal with a high pair.  I almost kept the high pair, then realized that it was 3 to a royal, and threw the high pair.  Hand paid $2,000.00.  Plus, they gave me a coupon for 2 prime rib dinners!

[royal flush]

did you enjoy the dinner as much as the royal