might be the best post you ever made!Tedlark wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:01 pmHere is MY bottom line: COVID-19 will be the single biggest outside threat to my health in my lifetime. Having had 2 pulmonary embolisms (once in each lung) and had pneumonia twice (once in each lung), puts me into the extreme risk category. I AM NOT looking to the Governor of my state to keep me safe, I AM NOT looking to the President of the United States to keep me safe, I am looking at ME to keep ME safe.
When I see people not abiding by social distancing, when I see people not washing their hands, when I see people hoarding much necessary essentials, it really frosts my ass because not only am I doing my part for ME but I am doing it for my fellow man as well. All I ask for in return is the same courtesy and civility.
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Sorry I missed this. Everyone has wrote a wall of text on here saying how trump is doing a great job, and how dare I not think that, and trying to point out how stupid I am.notes1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:16 pmvman, still awaiting your response. as our country's leader, do you keep the country open during flu season, even when you know as many as 50,000 will die?notes1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:19 pmyes, i read your posts. i am only repeating what dr. birx has stated, she is the expert. did you see that today, cuomo admitted that he has thousands of ventilators in storage? there goes your complaint about ny and ventilators.
of course, there are locations that need to take extra precautions, but not every place.
here is a question for you; if you were in charge and you were told you could open an area to normal activity (with precautions), but it was likely a couple folks might still die, would you keep it closed, until there was no chance of any death? if you were in charge and knowing up to 50,000 folks would die from the flu, would you close the country?
you're the leader, you decide. and, if you decide to keep the country open during flu season, is it fair to call you a murderer? that is what the left does.
i await your response, as our country's leader.
Well if the "flu" was completely unknown virus to us with its relative level of devastation and deaths unknown, I would probably. Seasonal flu as is, no. What we currently do with the flu is about as efficient as the world gets.
If coronavirus reappears, we have to try to avoid a shut down of this magnitude next time if possible. Because we're gonna to save lives by quarantining etc., but definitely at a very, very large economic cost. Mainly we should consider having our health care system more properly prepared for another outbreak of this type in the future. But I'm sure Republicans won't go for that. Too costly. But then again, would doubling/tripling our healthcare capacity cost less than $2 trillion of economic fallout? Probably. But I dunno the real numbers.
When the raw numbers settle out, I wouldn't doubt if these two outcomes below would have been better economically (not necessarily from a life saving standpoint) then what we are currently doing.
A) Do no closing at all.
B) Have a China-like lockdown as soon as possible.
Unfortunately, we waited too long for B to be effective. Now we are quarantining to try to avoid having the health care system collapse. Which NY might do in a couple of weeks. We'll have to see.
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This is not the first Coronavirus to hit us but it is the first one of this type of novel strain. If COVID-19 reappears we will have no one to blame but ourselves, collectively. And, it will return stronger and meaner.
If the Influenza virus is as common as some here have stated, why hasn't it been eradicated from our existence? Viruses are very adaptable and very difficult to stay one step ahead of.
I have had the opportunity to visit and tour places like Argonne National Laboratories, Fermi Lab, Abbott Labs and a couple others. If a virus is able to outsmart scientists and researchers at places like this, then I feel so small.
If the Influenza virus is as common as some here have stated, why hasn't it been eradicated from our existence? Viruses are very adaptable and very difficult to stay one step ahead of.
I have had the opportunity to visit and tour places like Argonne National Laboratories, Fermi Lab, Abbott Labs and a couple others. If a virus is able to outsmart scientists and researchers at places like this, then I feel so small.
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Viral adaptation can be very strong that's for sure. Fortunately preliminary reports say this virus isn't mutating as much as the flu would. That's better news for possible vaccine efficiency down the road.Tedlark wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:25 amThis is not the first Coronavirus to hit us but it is the first one of this type of novel strain. If COVID-19 reappears we will have no one to blame but ourselves, collectively. And, it will return stronger and meaner.
If the Influenza virus is as common as some here have stated, why hasn't it been eradicated from our existence? Viruses are very adaptable and very difficult to stay one step ahead of.
I have had the opportunity to visit and tour places like Argonne National Laboratories, Fermi Lab, Abbott Labs and a couple others. If a virus is able to outsmart scientists and researchers at places like this, then I feel so small.
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With all due respect, Republicans are not against having a properly prepared health care system. What we are against is destroying our current system in the process. Many of us like the health care we have. When Obama told us we could keep our current insurance under his plan, he lied. If you want to see what a socialized health care system looks like, go down to the post office and imagine you are waiting in line to see a doctor. Nothing worthwhile is free.Vman96 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:03 amMainly we should consider having our health care system more properly prepared for another outbreak of this type in the future. But I'm sure Republicans won't go for that. Too costly. But then again, would doubling/tripling our healthcare capacity cost less than $2 trillion of economic fallout? Probably. But I dunno the real numbers.
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No health problems so far beyond gas from all the beans consumption, knock on wood. Hearing about a secondary wave in China is unsettling, to say the least.
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Second waves during pandemics kill more.
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Why is this even in the "video poker stories" section? Shouldn't it be in the "anything and everything" section?
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Vman, have you looked at the hot spots on the map? the areas that may be underprepared? they are largely located in typical democratic controlled areas. nyc, LA, washington state, wayne co (mich), cook co (chicago), new orleans, many of these areas haven't voted rep since ww2.
every misstatement you make, you lose a little more credibility. you were always so exact when talking about VP, but you will spout just about anything on this subject.
and, no, one does not have to be a trump supporter. no one disagrees about his sometimes childish behavior, his tendency to hype/exaggerate, toot his own horn, go ahead, call him out, i won't disagree. but, to be accurate, make sure to list all the accomplishments.
i might not like my doc personally, but if he/she gets the job done, i stick with them.
every misstatement you make, you lose a little more credibility. you were always so exact when talking about VP, but you will spout just about anything on this subject.
and, no, one does not have to be a trump supporter. no one disagrees about his sometimes childish behavior, his tendency to hype/exaggerate, toot his own horn, go ahead, call him out, i won't disagree. but, to be accurate, make sure to list all the accomplishments.
i might not like my doc personally, but if he/she gets the job done, i stick with them.