The next time someone complains to you that.....

Did you hit any jackpots? Did you get a great comp? We all want to know!
Post Reply
FAA
Video Poker Master
Posts: 9253
Joined: Wed May 28, 2014 11:58 am

Re: The next time someone complains to you that.....

Post by FAA »

It is very distracting, and of course rude. Most of the time no nefarious intent. They just want your seat! It's like they're breathing down your neck. I experienced that on the boardwalk, and I was also hovering behind. Just another reason I'm only to happy to cede the casinos on the Strip. East Coast version.

OTABILL
Video Poker Master
Posts: 2908
Joined: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:22 pm

Post by OTABILL »

It is very distracting, and of course rude. Most of the time no nefarious intent. They just want your seat! It's like they're breathing down your neck. I experienced that on the boardwalk, and I was also hovering behind. Just another reason I'm only to happy to cede the casinos on the Strip. East Coast version.

As I mention we hang out in the area but not behind anyone. Usually walking around. That's the way to do it. I can see why someone hovering right behind you can be annoying and distracting.

DaBurglar
Video Poker Master
Posts: 4535
Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:11 pm

Post by DaBurglar »




  As I've said before; when someone is standing behind me watching me play, I shut it down. I don't want (or need) someone standing behind me watching me play because I find it distracting. What does this mean, "Shut it down"?    You stop playing and cashout and go somewhere else?      Also, what distance are you distracted by?  Someone standing right behind you obviously bothers you, but how far back or away is your threshold of "annoyance"?   10 feet?I was interested to see what type of input and response I would get on this topic, and post.  I intentionally made it a little provocative (again NOT for TED's personal benefit regardless of his self centered opinion) because I have seen this become more of an issue lately in AC as the gamblers become more and more grumpy and dissatisfied, and as I myself have been doing far less playing video poker and far more WATCHING.Of course, needless to say, if someone truly is uncomfy or does not want me watching close by while they play, and they say so, I leave.   I do NOT require security to move me right along,       But I have seen others do so and it both cracks me up as well as annoys me (especially if the person is obviously a miserable antisocial selfish gambler, as many casino patrons are....)   Over the years, I can honestly say that I have made a lot of friends (casual mostly) in the casinos I have visited, but I can also attest that just about the worst people I have ever met have also been fixtures in many of the casinos I have been in.....I have no problem myself being watched.....you are out in the open in a public place, what's the problem?    I cannot fathom why it would be a "distraction" for someone unless that person is either lacking confidence in their playing ability, or perhaps is losing badly and does not want anyone to know the extent.....?Lately, I have even gone the added step to ASK people who are playing a particular machine I am interested in watching if it is "OK" with them if I watch for a little while, and if they ask "why" (which so far the rarely do)  I simply explain that I am interested in monitoring the play results of that machine they are on because I previously played it and it gave me very poor, way out of bounds results.......again, so far no one has said "get lost" when I phrase it thusly.....Only that miserable, tobacco smoke-addled witch has bitten my head off in recent months in AC for "disturbing" them while playing!And lets be honest, if somone sitting next to you is running very HOTT and keeps hitting huge hands, you are indeed going to stop and gawk at least for a few moments, and probably compliment or congratulate them on their success.       Casino gambling is, by its very nature and set up, far more "SOCIAL" than "ANTI-social"......the casinos recognize this and cultivate that dynamic with the layout of the floor, the very close proximity between games/machines,  the free flowing BOOZE, etc etc.   

notes1
Video Poker Master
Posts: 3143
Joined: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:18 am

Post by notes1 »



i'll give you credit for this, in just a couple of lines, you can offend a whole lot of folks. if someone does not meet your criteria of acceptible, you take no prisioners. smoke-addled(?) witches, miserable anti social, grumpy/dissatisfied, lacking confidence/losing badly.  why does gambling have to be a group social event? it can be, for those who want it. but, some folks interact with the public all day, maybe they just want less interaction on their free time. while i am not a casino layout expert like you, i would think the machines are packed together because floor space is valuable. empty space makes no money.   

DaBurglar
Video Poker Master
Posts: 4535
Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:11 pm

Post by DaBurglar »





i'll give you credit for this, in just a couple of lines, you can offend a whole lot of folks. if someone does not meet your criteria of acceptible, you take no prisioners. smoke-addled(?) witches, miserable anti social, grumpy/dissatisfied, lacking confidence/losing badly.  why does gambling have to be a group social event? it can be, for those who want it. but, some folks interact with the public all day, maybe they just want less interaction on their free time. while i am not a casino layout expert like you, i would think the machines are packed together because floor space is valuable. empty space makes no money.   If you are a Cigarette smoker, it was not my intention to piss you off personally......but in my book, in this day and age, with all that we know, if some one STILL chooses to smoke, it says a whole lot about them (and none of it is good.)   Seriously.....and while I actually do have a few friends who still smoke, I constantly ask (almost plead) with them to stop.   So my assessment of the one extremely unfriendly woman, who, if you saw her you would know why I said what I said, is accurate,   Cigarettes enhance NO one's personality and in fact make them miserable (especially if its been 30 minutes since they last had one.)    Hey, I am not the "REVEL", I could care less if I offend Smokers in general, they deserve it.........Gambling is indeed more social than not, otherwise you would have a crapload of private booths for people to be by themselves......but casinos WANT the openess, it fosters a lot of positive forces that encourage gambling (its really simple:  People see others playing and gambling and they are more likely to do so also.)  But more than that, when someone wins, the casinos want anyone nearby to see that without much trouble.And yes, the machines are scrunched together because it fosters a lot of these positive emotions that encourage more play than not......your statement that it is all about money is misapplied with regards the concept of space and machines being so close together.    Of course, the casino is "all about money" but if you can look around you next time in a casino like Harrahs AC or even Resorts, you are going to notice quite a bit of open space all around the casino floor.......the actual number of machines that each casino can have at anyone time of the floor is preordained, so in a sense, space is valuable on a casino floor, but there are so many other considerations and requirements (safety, proper access, traffic flow) when it comes to casino floors and where the machines go.    I am not saying the "social aspect" of gambling is the absolute number one priority on any casino floor, but it is an important consideration, one of many.

Tedlark
Video Poker Master
Posts: 8638
Joined: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:29 am

Post by Tedlark »

So airplane seats are scrunched together because it fosters a lot of positive emotions and promotes openness?

Casinos are like airplanes; they put as many seats in there as they can to make it more profitable.

As for video poker being a sociable game, I completely disagree. If the casinos really wanted to show players winning in their casinos then they would install big jumbotrons in which people could watch other people play and see the hits.

By saying that I shut it down when I find people standing behind me watching my play, I mean that I stop playing until they get the idea and walk away.

DaBurglar
Video Poker Master
Posts: 4535
Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:11 pm

Post by DaBurglar »




So airplane seats are scrunched together because it fosters a lot of positive emotions and promotes openness?

Casinos are like airplanes; they put as many seats in there as they can to make it more profitable.

As for video poker being a sociable game, I completely disagree. If the casinos really wanted to show players winning in their casinos then they would install big jumbotrons in which people could watch other people play and see the hits.

By saying that I shut it down when I find people standing behind me watching my play, I mean that I stop playing until they get the idea and walk away. Oh yep yep yep   I know a whole lot of people who equate flying on a plane with the experience of gambling in a casino...... Another classic non sequitur from the champion dot connector, Tedlark...."Casinos are like airplanes"......You missed my point (as you always do, just to disagree with me)  that a typical casino in a place like Vegas, or AC, is LIMITED in the number of actual GAMES they can have on the floor (it is regulated and preset based on a number of factors), so therefore, HOW the games are positioned and situated to create the best "Atmosphere" and maximize the fun and festive spirit, which includes fostering a type of social comraderie among gamblers/customers......this is clearly MORE important to the NONEXISTENT consideration of "maximizing the number of seats and cramming the most seats into the least amount of space" because, since the number of games is preset, casinos have NO reason to "CRAM" the maximum number of seats into their available floor.....  As I said look around the casino next time, you will see A whole crapload of open space (another requirement for safety and proper thruways for entrance and exit and all that.....lots of regulations for casinos to adhere to in the layout of the floor.....)I highly recommend you visit your local library (or better yet, the next time you are in Vegas visit the UNLV campus and research the concept of casino design and layout and absorb the principles that go into the layout and design of the typical casino floor.)    You will cleary find that it is NOT merely about cramming as many seats into the available space!!!!"Casinos are like airplanes..."    ahahahaha!Some casinos Do have things SIMILAR to jumbotrons, such as message boards highlighting a recent jackpot, and it is common to see large displays of past winners and the amounts, again, to foster the "concept" of winning......Just because YOU TED are (for whatever strange reason) intensely private about your gambling does not mean EVERYONE else is.....most people are there to have fun and the whole idea of cheering people on, sharing the joys and sorrows of the casino's results, the free flowing booze, it is all designed to create one big Party atmosphere......most people prefer a party greater than ONE person (yourself).And I cannot imagine anything more typical, and spot on indicative of who and what you  actually are, than picturing a scene where you are playing, and some innocent, harmless casino patorn walking around with a drink in his hand, smiling and enjoying himself and the carnival atmosphere that permeates most casinos, passing by you and your ten line dreamcard game and, in a sincere and innocent spirit of curiosity, stops for a moment just to watch and observe, perhaps just to get an idea of how it works and what is happening......and YOU, in your self absorbed, typical MEAN spirited manner, stops playing and gives the guy untold hostile dirty looks......and why?  <whiny voice>  "It distracts me...."Anyone want to guess what the guy mutters under his breath when "get's Ted's Hint"?


Tedlark
Video Poker Master
Posts: 8638
Joined: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:29 am

Post by Tedlark »

You should sometime take a walk through casinos in Indiana that have machines stuffed into every nook and cranny available.

I'm not the one scaring women; you are.

DaBurglar
Video Poker Master
Posts: 4535
Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:11 pm

Post by DaBurglar »


You should sometime take a walk through casinos in Indiana that have machines stuffed into every nook and cranny available.
 
yuk yuk very funnyAnd Big deal for Indiana......never been to their casinos and never will, but I could have guessed they'd be cramped......still does not refute my point about what the "REAL, professional Casinos" in Vegas or AC aim for when they layout their casino floor and how they set things up.    I am pretty sure that even in Indiana, they are told/regulated HOW many total machines they are allowed to have on the floor and logically they attempt to get them all operating......so if the actual building is small, then it obviously will appear and fell CRAMPED.

Tedlark
Video Poker Master
Posts: 8638
Joined: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:29 am

Post by Tedlark »



  I can understand how you would think that the Horseshoe in Hammond, IN with it's over 350,000 square feet of gambling space, would be considered small. To my knowledge Indiana has no restrictions on the number of gaming positions allowed in a casino located in Indiana.   

Post Reply