Deuces Wild Results

[olds442jetaway]

I would have to say at least for me the paytables would be most important followed by game type then where in the casino i have to play smoke crazies noise etc. That said, i have lost more money on 99 percent games than lower or poorer paytable games.

[FloridaPhil]

I'm just guessing here, but I'd be willing to speculate that a lot of folks here would disagree with the thought that video poker pay tables are so insignificant that they come last when one is considering where and what to play.

On the surface, this sounds accurate. If you think this through, you may get my point.

If everyone who plays video poker played with accuracy and discipline, the odds would be the most significant factor. This is far from the case. A 3% house edge is nothing compared to the house edge of someone who plays trying to engineer a jackpot on his own. A 20$ an hour mathematical loss becomes a $100 an hour loss. A quick visit to the high limit room wastes another $100 or two. Another couple hundred in a high variance game attempting to recoup. You try a different game that you don't know how to play and the losses build. Before long you are at the ATM. At the end of the year, you find you could have bought a new Mercedes with your losses.

Then there is the denomination issue. How is playing negative games bigger better? The bigger you play those games the more you lose. Why would someone pay tens of thousands of dollars a year or more to play the same game they can play with quarters? Is the thrill of winning big worth losing big? Even if you can afford the loss, why throw good money away? If everyone who plays VP is forced to sign their year long casino results printout, I think many would be shocked at what they saw. I remember the first time I asked for one and I nearly fell over.

The experts are telling us the best way to play these games. If you don't have positive games, play the games you have exactly the same way only play them smaller. You most likely won't make a profit, but you will pay a reasonable amount for your entertainment.

I am not judging anyone. I went my own way for years while I watched my wife enjoy the game for nearly nothing. Odds don't affect my wife's results because she is intelligent enough to know it is going to cost her money to play VP and she plays to keep that cost as small as possible. I have learned a lot from watching her and I am doing my best to play like her. The casino is using my greed and human emotions against me. This is what they do.

[FAA]

Good compromise is to split difference. I'll chase that first hand pay on quarter ten coins required and fifty cent games. $2K best case. But I won't be KOd.

[onemoretry]

I went my own way for years while I watched my wife enjoy the game for nearly nothing.

I think it's quite interesting that your wife's results, over time, are pretty much as what "the math" would predict. Yet, you continue to make statements indicating your doubt that "the math" can predict anything.

[FloridaPhil]

I went my own way for years while I watched my wife enjoy the game for nearly nothing.

I think it's quite interesting that your wife's results, over time, are pretty much as what "the math" would predict. Yet, you continue to make statements indicating your doubt that "the math" can predict anything.

The fact that my wife's results mirror the math does not mean anyone is "guaranteed" the same result. There are no guarantees in video poker. The math says it is likely you will have a certain result. It also allows for the possibility that your results could be significantly different.

When you make a wager and the math is positive, the odds are with you. That does not prevent you from losing short or long term. I choose to accept that fact and adjust my bets accordingly. Others may choose to ignore it and suffer the consequences or reap the rewards. The only disagreement I have is with people who do not recognize these facts.

I do believe playing VP like my wife gives you the best chance of your results mirroring the math.

[onemoretry]

I do not believe anyone has ever suggested that mathematical probabilities guarantee anything. However, they do indicate, within specified levels of confidence, the likely outcome of events.

[FAA]

Standard deviation, baby!

[FloridaPhil]

I do not believe anyone has ever suggested that mathematical probabilities guarantee anything. However, they do indicate, within specified levels of confidence, the likely outcome of events.

Players have different "levels of confidence". Video poker is gambling. No matter what your "level of confidence", your results can vary. A professional player risking hundreds of thousands of dollars may be confident in doing so. I am not. If there is 1% chance I will lose my money, I want no part of it. I have no problem risking quarters, so I bet accordingly. That does not mean I doubt the math. It means I do not believe the risk is worth the reward.

[billryan]

I do not believe anyone has ever suggested that mathematical probabilities guarantee anything. However, they do indicate, within specified levels of confidence, the likely outcome of events.

You do realize you are trying to explain the difference between navy blue and royal blue to a blind man.

[FloridaPhil]

For those of you who believe playing positive VP games assures you will make a profit, I wish you luck. Video poker is gambling. Whether you wish to accept it or not, you are taking risks with your money. As for me, I will continue to play VP as small as possible and keep my money in the bank.