Does the past matter?

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stevel96a1
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Re: Does the past matter?

Post by stevel96a1 »

What else is there? 99.54 is the best of the worst in atlantic city unless my name is nj slot guy and can withstand losses in high limit slot room and close the year a 38k winner i dont see other option but dont gamble

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Post by Eduardo »

What else is there for what?

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Post by billryan »

Vman96 wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:23 pm
billryan wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:57 am
Am I reading this right?
Someone is claiming if you play 4000 coins, one has a 60% chance of hitting a 4000 coin payoff?
No if you have a 4000 coin-bankroll you'll get the royal before busting about 60% of the time. And that's roughly correct. Depends on games and paytables though as Eduardo linked to in another post.
That makes sense. I was thinking coin in, not bankroll.

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Post by stevel96a1 »

What is the best gamble or what is the best AP in ac? I wish Phil was here he would teach all of you a lesson

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stevel96a1 wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:15 pm
I wish Phil was here he would teach all of you a lesson
Phil has stated many times that he is not a vp expert. Thinking there is something he could teach us is somewhat off-base.

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Post by FAA »

Phil would be the first to admit that he is certainly no AC guru, either. You do your diligent 99.54% and hope for the best. If the Progressive ever gets big enough, 100% is attainable. Recreation.

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stevel96a1 wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:10 am
if i played any full-pay poker machine and lost 1,000 1,000 1,000 and 1,000 in 4 different days am i more likely to hit a royal? can i continue to lose? and did losing 4k credits have any impact on the future that hasn't happened yet? (assuming im playing same machine ofcourse!)

reason i asked i played five joker poker either 6 to 9 times and no jackpot and if i choose to player another 8 times i can suffer the same fate as i did in the past?

i know the nearest jackpot is a 1/76k shot but feel like that game just didn't like me

any replies would be grateful ty
The word “full-pay” doesn’t mean anything if you can’t hit the rare hands like quad aces or deuces or royal. And Bob Dancer wouldn’t get this legendary title if he hadn’t hit the half million jackpots at one night. All you should hope is the random number generator eventually yields the premium hands.

If you lose then you lose, you can’t get your loss back. The past has no indication for the future. The odds stay the same. The “5 jokers” jackpot shows every 130K hands, about 3 royal cycles. And you shouldn’t expect too much from this game since the odds is so small. But if you play lots of hands like 10M hands, you should see the statistics coming together.

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Post by FloridaPhil »

onemoretry wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:00 pm
stevel96a1 wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:15 pm
I wish Phil was here he would teach all of you a lesson
Phil has stated many times that he is not a vp expert. Thinking there is something he could teach us is somewhat off-base.
I have never claimed to be a video poker expert. What I do claim is to have played many many millions of hands over a 20 year period. If we are to believe the experts and I do, every hand is independent. The fact that you did not hit a royal on the last hand has nothing to do with if you will hit one on the next hand, next week, next year or ten years from now. The odds that you will hit a jackpot, or not, are exactly the same each time you deal the cards. Sorry, but the game does not owe you a jackpot.

As far as I am concerned, my royals come on time. I quit counting them years ago. Sometimes it seems like it will never happen and sometimes they come in bunches. There have been players on this forum who have never hit one. The more hands you play the more likely you are to hit a royal, but there is no firm guarantee.
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Post by stevel96a1 »

if the past doesn't matter then why the experts claim you need to clock in 60-80hours to see a royal? again if the past never happened what difference does it make if i played 6hours or 60 hours? am i more likely to see a royal? no but then why put that number of hours in the book?'

and if it takes 60 hours of play to see 1 royal id like to see what your starting bankroll looks like after 50hours of play on a 99% or lower game.

if 60 hours is the average then were all pretty much playing off someone elses time either the past matters or does not again im confused why do they say i need"60-80hours to see a royal"

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Post by Eduardo »

You ARE more likely to see a royal in 60 hours of play than in 6 hours of play. Why did you answer "no" to that question when you posed it?

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