Short Coin Opportunities...

[case]

OldsDo you always go up 1 quarter at a time. I mean like 2 hands at 1 coin....if you lose go to 2 quarters for 2 hands....if you lose go to 3 quarters...ect ( I know about going back down on certain wins). Your system is a bit different than Phils and also interesting. I saw a guy who plays quarter DDB and he plays one coin for 10 dollars. He then goes to 2 coins for 10...then 3 coins for 10 dollars and then jumps to 5 coins for 20 dollars. If he hits a quad he starts over because he is guaranteed to be ahead. If he hits any bonus quads he is up much more. Said it works well for him.Lots of ways to play and shows you guys are thinking and not just pounding the buttons.

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=case]Lots of ways to play and shows you guys are thinking and not just pounding the buttons.[/quote]That's the great thing about recreational play, you can try different things until you find something you enjoy. The Bob Dancers of the world are in it only for the money.  They don't understand recreational players and why someone would ever play other than the way they do. I play with my Cheap Strategy because I want my money to last longer and it allows me to play at a higher denomination than my bankroll would allow at max coins.  Besides, it's way more fun.   I'm sure Olds has his own reasons for using his strategy or he would have switched long ago.  Nothing works all the time, not even perfect 100% plus game play. 

[FAA]

OMT, the dollar denom pays back slightly more, from what I have read many times. I  welcome details from those more informed on the matter. 

[djc32]

OMT, the dollar denom pays back slightly more, from what I have read many times. I  welcome details from those more informed on the matter. 




To quote Phil from a earlier post, "The odds are what they are.   9/6 Jacks is the same game at a quarter or $100 "

Slots usually will have a higher pay back % when moving up in denomination, but VP it's the pay table that determines the long term return. Maybe your confusing slot returns with VP?

[notes1]

OldsDo you always go up 1 quarter at a time. I mean like 2 hands at 1 coin....if you lose go to 2 quarters for 2 hands....if you lose go to 3 quarters...ect ( I know about going back down on certain wins). Your system is a bit different than Phils and also interesting. I saw a guy who plays quarter DDB and he plays one coin for 10 dollars. He then goes to 2 coins for 10...then 3 coins for 10 dollars and then jumps to 5 coins for 20 dollars. If he hits a quad he starts over because he is guaranteed to be ahead. If he hits any bonus quads he is up much more. Said it works well for him.Lots of ways to play and shows you guys are thinking and not just pounding the buttons.


 how is reducing or increasing your bet, after the result of a previous hand, any different than implying the machines may not random? previous results should not be an indicator of future results.

[FAA]

Slots usually will have a higher pay back % when moving up in
denomination, but VP it's the pay table that determines the long term
return. Maybe your confusing slot returns with VP?--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Yes, that's what happened. Of course this will be fodder for those who equate VP to slots anyway! LOL.

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=notes1]how is reducing or increasing your bet, after the result of a previous hand, any different than implying the machines may not random? previous results should not be an indicator of future results.[/quote]Recreational players have all kinds of different playing preferences when it comes to video poker.  The fact is someone may "like" to play a certain way even if it has no basis in math or reason.  Jackpots will eventually come up no matter what you do. As long as a player is willing to lay out his own money for the sake of proving his way of play works, it works for him.   If you ask Olds how he is doing with his Martingale Clone method, I think he would probably admit that his net result hasn't been that good in recent years, but he likes to play that way.   Lots of people have told me my Cheap Strategy is garbage and will never work.  I'm OK with it because it works for me.  Some "experts" are quick to denounce and belittle anyone who plays video poker outside of the what they consider to be "perfect play".  This elitist attitude toward small denomination recreational players is ridiculous because not everyone is playing with the same goal.   All I want to do is have an enjoyable day and maybe come home with some money.  If I win good.  If I don't as long as I feel like I got my money's worth, it's all good. 

[FAA]

Lots of people have told me that my Cheap Strategy is garbage and will never work.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Twenty jackpots later, you're still muddling through!

[FloridaPhil]

Think about this while you're muddling.  These are "facts" not "feelings" or "hunches".A max coin quarter DW royal flush pays $1,000 and comes on average every 40-45K Hands.   A max coin dollar quad deuce pays the same $1,000 and comes on average every 5,000 hands.  You have 8-9 times times more chance of hitting a max coin dollar quad deuce than a quarter max coin royal.If you play max coin quarters it will cost you $1.25 per hand.  If you play single coin dollar Cheap Strategy, it only costs you $1.00 a hand for 90% of your hands. Recovering your losses is easier with the Cheap Strategy because a small max coin hit covers a bunch of single coin losing hands.If you hit a max coin dollar royal, you will be playing for free for a very long time.Since I went Gold, I've been playing on this website using Cheap Strategy so I could compare my results real time with other players as I play.   I am playing with the Airport Deuces pay schedule when I assume others are playing 100% games.  I am almost always in the top 10 on the list.  This is because 90% of the time I'm only losing one coin each losing hand.  Occasionally, one or two players will hit a big jackpot and jump ahead of me.  Unless they are very lucky, they eventually fall behind because those max coin losses catch up to them.   I have yet to hit a max coin quad deuce or royal on this website, but when I do I'll be at the top and stay there.

[FAA]

Whoa. I should have added the wink icon!