Martingale Strategy?

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FloridaPhil
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Re: Martingale Strategy?

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Math can not guarantee anyone will win or lose in the short or long term.  Playing the best games better gives you more chances at a jackpot.  Your actual results are up to chance.   When I first started playing VP, I studied everything I could find on VP strategy.  The math experts convinced me the odds could predict in advance what would happen when I played.  I found this to be totally inaccurate.   I won playing lousy games and lost big on great games.  This didn't happen over a weekend or a few months either.  It has happened all during the 10 plus years I have been playing VP.   That doesn't mean I don't try to play the best games I can.  It means I understand VP is gambling and I make my wagers accordingly.






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Post by onemoretry »

but knowing when to deviate by using special plays results in more wins.
What, exactly, do you mean by the term "special play"?

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Post by olds442jetaway »

vp is like a big sine curve tilted slightly down. I'm only going by my experience, but I have no doubt I could end up positive for the year by quitting for the session when ahead a nominal amount. Many will argue against that and in fact over infinity, you cannot overcome a negative ev game. Most won't accept that a lifetime of play is still short term. I will. For example, my lifetime of play so far consists of about 25 million hands. My frequency of hitting Royals in draw poker is way, way, way, below the norm or hitting one every 40 or 50k hands or so averaged out. I don't have the exact calculation, but it is in the 70k to 80k range of hitting Royals. If I don't accept the fact that my record is still short term play, then I have to assume the machines are rigged and I'm not ready to believe that

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Post by FloridaPhil »


Let's see...   One day a week at 5,000 hands a day equals 260,000 hands per year.  Ten years of play equals 2,600,000 hands.  I'm not even close to infinity yet.  Maybe next year! 

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Post by Tedlark »

Special plays are something referenced by a certain someone who is banned from this site.

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vp is like a big sine curve tilted slightly down. I'm only going by my experience, but I have no doubt I could end up positive for the year by quitting for the session when ahead a nominal amount. Many will argue against that and in fact over infinity, you cannot overcome a negative ev game. Most won't accept that a lifetime of play is still short term. I will. For example, my lifetime of play so far consists of about 25 million hands. My frequency of hitting Royals in draw poker is way, way, way, below the norm or hitting one every 40 or 50k hands or so averaged out. I don't have the exact calculation, but it is in the 70k to 80k range of hitting Royals. If I don't accept the fact that my record is still short term play, then I have to assume the machines are rigged and I'm not ready to believe that


I'm sure I stated this several years ago but it is worth repeating.....prior to 2009, when my VP experience and history was centered solely in and around Nevada casinos (Vegas, Reno, Tahoe et al) my rate or frequency for royals was pretty close to what you expect statistically, about one every 45,000 hands or so....from February 2009, when I first visited AC, until today, November 15, 2017, during which over 90% of my VP has been in AC, I'm dramatically down in royal frequency, in the neighborhood of one royal every 130,000-140,000 hands! I'm sure it's even a little worse because I've had a bunch of sessions in AC where I simply didn't keep even loosetrak of play but during which the one thing I'm certain of is no royals were had!

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Post by FAA »

I'm headed right down the very same road, DB. It will always be downhill and leading to either be a ditch or a dead end! My thread documents the wreckage. I love the trips, but I am about done with the losing. I can't even produce quads at a reasonable pace to approximate a BE. Miserable and irate. I may even hit that "due" HL machine at Harrah's, just to scratch that itch for the year's bucket list.
Olds is really onto something. Take whatever damn nominal win you have after about an hour and run. You stay, you pay. +$50 is a lot better than -$150 and beyond. It's a black hole everywhere but Vegas, where players seem to have a puncher's chance. The rest of us are losers. KO or TKO. What's the difference?

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Post by FloridaPhil »

I second that.  VP has turned into one long continuous lose-fest for me too.   Slots are paying much better.  

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Post by billryan »


Infinity is circular. Thus, the closer you get to it, the further away you are.

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Infinity is circular. Thus, the closer you get to it, the further away you are.Infinity gives me a headache......."Time is a flat circle, so sayeth the yellow king...."  -  Detective Rustin Cohle  from season 1 of the HBO Hit Series "True Detective"

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