CS Basics

[Jstark]

[QUOTE=New2vp]Vulturing 12x multipliers ... good! ... though I admit it probably feels better if at least one line hits. 
Just goes to show your system is a loser to!I see these people do this all the time and never once see them hit anything. It's a loser game to start with and to think running around spending money on losing hand after hand will make a profit .
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I have a friend thay made over $100k last year just doing this alone. Once again, people's short term memory convoludes reality.

[FloridaPhil]

For the final time.  CS was never about winning more money playing VP than you would using any other strategy.  It's about extending play.  It lets you play cheaper 90% of the time while putting you in position to get lucky 10% of the time.   This has value to someone who is playing video poker for entertainment purposes.  Those are the players who CS was designed to benefit.  If you must make money to be entertained, there are much more lucrative ventures than VP.

[Eduardo]

Your new strategy will probably have you losing 3 or 4 times as much over the course of a year.But you'll earn more comps.As long as that's your goal and you have the bankroll to sustain it... enjoy!  You'll certainly have a lot more max coin winners along the way.Maybe you'll get lucky and hit enough big winners that it's actually a great year. I'll hope that for you. You are correct that there is a luck factor. That luck factor is also included within the mathematical view of the game. They are not two different things. We can hope you fall into the group of winners rather than the much larger group of losers in a given year.

[FloridaPhil]

I am enjoying playing max coins.   Playing CS is about limiting losses.  That's not the most concerning thing on my mind these days.  Once you get into the mind set that it costs money to play, you can choose the cost that best fits your personal preference.  If losses get out of hand, you can always quit for awhile or move down in denomination.My free play right now is running about $50 to $80 a week.   Since the beginning of the year I am in the black thanks to a nice royal last Tuesday.    I don't expect to make money playing VP.  I do expect to enjoy the game without fretting about who's fault it is if I don't.At the moment I enjoy playing with denominations.  I start out with quarters and move up when I'm ahead.  I stay small if things don't work out.  I set my cash out limit low and try to come home with some money left in my pockets.   Bonus Poker is my current game of choice.  It's usually  a mild game which lets you hang in there longer at the bigger denominations.   If quads go on hiatus, I switch to Deuces Wild.  Sometime during the day, I usually win enough to keep me going.  If it's a total wipe out, I don't let it get to me.I stay happy no matter what happens.  When I start to second guess the game or engineer a win is when I get into trouble.

[Eduardo]

You've learned to make the game enjoyable for yourself in a world where an AP would be miserable.

[billryan]

I find this discussion entertaining and somewhat humorous.   I can see how someone who enjoys video poker as much as we all seem to can be enthralled by the mathematics of VP.   I find it interesting myself.   From my experience math doesn't mean much to a video poker machine.  I have personally witnessed some of the most mind bending things happen.  I have tried things that shouldn't work and they paid big time.  I have tried things that the experts tell me have a near 100% chance of working and they failed just as much.Perhaps this is because I haven't played long enough?  How long does it take for math to affect my results?  No one has ever answered that question to my satisfaction. Look, CS is a fun way to extend VP play while retaining the possibility of a max coin jackpot.  Bill Ryan just posted that I "guaranteed" using CS would produce a long term profit.  I have never once "guaranteed" any such thing and he knows it.  I did say I made a profit using it over a two year period.  I have also said much of that profit came from "Pot Shots" out of the blue.  I used the savings from CS to make these pot shots.Could someone else duplicate my results?  If they use CS they can play longer with their money.  That is the primary objective of CS and the only thing I know for sure.   What happens after that is up to luck. Mathematics is useful to a VP player.   However, if a player thinks math will "guarantee" to make him/her a VP winner, he/she may be in for a nasty surprise.  I asked Bob Dancer this question myself and he told me nothing is guaranteed in life or VP.  I agree with him totally.    All the mathematical formulas in the world won't guarantee to make you a winner or a loser in VP.There is no reason to discuss CS any further.  It exists.   If you play on this website, you can try it for free.  I hardly use it anymore for two reasons.  First, I made the financial commitment to up my bankroll so I can play max coins all the time.  It  now takes 3-4 times more money for me to play all day.   Do I win more?  Too early to tell and I can't tell you how long will it take me to find out.   Second, I earn more comps playing max coins.  Whatever strategy I use, I am not going to believe my results were earned, I got lucky. 

More lies from a person who has no regard for the truth and evidently little ability to comprehend simple English.
I'd ask Phil where I said what he claims I said, but this is just the latest example of his claiming someone said something that happened only in his bizarre imagination.

[FloridaPhil]

Billy,  I love you too...   

[Tedlark]

Hugs and Arnold Palmers for everyone.......

[FloridaPhil]

 

[billryan]

Billy,  I love you too...   





Not to worry. I care about, and respect you just as much as I ever have.