Pot Shot Strategy Explained

[FloridaPhil]

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[alpax]

Thanks for the explanation! It is vital to not over do the potshots by limiting it to 3 per trip.

[onemoretry]

Do you have an estimate as to how many hands of deuces wild you played while scoring those wild royals and quad deuces results?

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=onemoretry]Do you have an estimate as to how many hands of deuces wild you played while scoring those wild royals and quad deuces results?[/quote]I assume you mean at $5 a coin?  With the low limit bar set at $50, it means you turn $20 into $50 quite often.  It's actually rare that you don't hit something in 4 hands of DW play. The key is to use self control and not give back your winnings. That is why I set cash out limits.  I would say that at least 50% of the time you can walk away with no damage or a small profit.  I was shocked to learn how many single coin straight flushes ($45), 5-of-kinds($75) and wild royals($125) I hit doing this. I never would have guessed a quad deuce or a max coin wild royal would happen, but it does.  I think the reason this works is because of the tendency of DW to run in short runs of up and down.  All you are trying to do is to find a machine that's on one of these short up runs and cash out before it turns bad.  I know it sounds dumb, but believe me when I tell you it's well worth the effort.  I can't guarantee you will have the good fortune I have had, but I'm sure you won't lose as much as you think and that you will enjoy the experience even if all you get out of it is some extra excitement. 

[olds442jetaway]

Hate to jump in with corrections here, and if I'm wrong someone correct me, but I believe that you hit a win of at least 2 for 1 an average of about every 6 hands on Deuces Wild. Easy to figure out from the Wizard paytables. Job averages a win of at least 2 for 1 about every 4 hands. However, Deuces seems to give you lots of money back hits on your bets. I haven't checked the paytables to see which game job or deuces gives you more hits with a money back return on your bet. I am not saying job is a better game to play with the Phil method, because like Phil, I believe many times the deuces hits will come in bunches and that is where you can clean up.

[onemoretry]

]I assume you mean at $5 a coin? 

That's right. I'm guessing from the balance of your post that you don't really know?

[alpax]

[QUOTE=FloridaPhil]
]I assume you mean at $5 a coin? 

That's right. I'm guessing from the balance of your post that you don't really know?[/QUOTE]

If it is much less than 15000 hands like it sounds, I'd be pretty impressed with the outcome.

[Vman96]

[QUOTE=onemoretry] [QUOTE=FloridaPhil]
]I assume you mean at $5 a coin? 

That's right. I'm guessing from the balance of your post that you don't really know?[/QUOTE]

If it is much less than 15000 hands like it sounds, I'd be pretty impressed with the outcome.[/QUOTE]

Given how he describes how he does it, I'd be surprised if he did it more than 100 hands per gaming day on average. I dunno how many days a year he goes to the casino for 8 hours a day, but I'm guessing it's less than 150.

He's definitely hot on quad deuces at $5 bet, may be hot on wild royals too if he's played less than 1000 hands at $25 per hand.   

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=alpax]If it is much less than 15000 hands like it sounds, I'd be pretty impressed with the outcome.[/quote]As I'm sitting here with coffee in hand, I'm about to drive over to the Tampa Hard Rock on my weekly trip. I would guess that I will play less than 100 hands a day at $5 a hand.  Keep in mind that I'm looking to cash out on almost every profit as $50 is a pretty low bar.  I don't use these pot shots to score big, I use them to catch back up and the big hands come on their own.  Math calculations don't have much bearing here.  If you play DW for any length of time you will see that paying hands definitely bunch up.  This is true because the deuces come and go with a sort of rhythm.  To see this, play DW on this website long enough and you will see what I'm talking about.  I strongly believe that an informed player can take advantage of this quirk.  I'm not saying I win every time, but I do more times than I ever believed possible.  This pot shot strategy grew out of the years I spent developing the Cheap Strategy.  Even though I now play mostly max coins, I use a lot of what I learned playing single coin quarters to help me today.  

[FAA]

Enter the Cheap Strategy pot shot.  Do not do this more than once every few hours unless
you are significantly ahead for the day. 
If you do it’s not a pot shot, you are actually a high denomination player
playing at a huge disadvantage with your tiny bankroll.   As a quarter player, I limit myself to no
more than $60 at a time giving me three shots. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Thanks. This cannot be emphasized enough. I get antsy after even five min of min coin, so I need major behavioral adjustments. You have acquired the patience of Jobe. You strike like a cobra. It's the lying in wait part that is incredibly tough. Don't you feel like your casino visits are akin to a long stakeout? (not judging) I can handle the idea of $20 per machine in some high stakes DW
every 2.5 hours. What I can no longer abide is my proclivity to stray to min coin
dollar and deposit $60 over a very cold seventy hands. A mere
$25 JOB quad never comes. Min coin JOB for the duration Cheap Strategy requires
would drive me stark raving mad of boredom. So, in order to employ
Cheap Strategy and preserve my mental health, DW is mandatory.