Cheap play

[FAA]

And that's why they call it gambling. DB, we both had our reasons, lame as they appear in retrospect with our flimsy rationalizations. We were both clubbed, to Second Guess City. You at least got the satisfaction of turning a loser day into a winner. I was already a winner and could have afforded to bang out another twenty spins. Break even on the day or hit big. I would have cried had I not been rendered so numb and catatonic. I could feel pre rigor mortis. I usually have a minor heart flutter when I min coin. Ample justification. My floor bet will be two coins from now on. Multiple casino 2015 Royal Flush checked on my bucket list. Now must find time for Gallagher's.

[FAA]

Galey, you at least got 15% of the hand's potential and avoided taxes in the bargain. I could have rationized a three coin hit; at least I would have reaped 19% of the Royal Flush max value.
I guess I was more interested in preserving the day's paltry win.

[FloridaPhil]

As you would image, I have hit a bunch of $62.50 royals and it's never fun.  I recently switched to dollar Cheap Strategy and I'm a lot more at ease with a $250 royal.  I consider a $250 royal flush the same as a max coin quarter quad deuce.   Interestingly enough, I find the cost per hour of Cheap Strategy dollars is about the same as quarters.  This is true because you hit a decent amount of max coin wild royals and 5-of-a-kinds which fills in your loses.  The excitement level of dollar play is well worth it.   Deuces Wild is already one of the most exciting video poker games and using Cheap Strategy makes it even more so.  The normal bet is $1 per hand instead of $1.25 and there's the possibility you could hit a $1,000 quad deuce or even a $4,000 royal.  Then there's the added benefit of better odds at the dollar level.  I'm hooked...   I can't play max coin quarters anymore because the best I can do is $250 or $1,000.   Forget math, let's have some real recreation. 

[FAA]

Yes, I'd be swell with a $250 RF, to confirm the obvious! DW is a fantastic game, from my limited casino dabbling. I'm still in my JOB phase so I must work my way through it before boredom sets in. Cheap strategy dollar JOB would result in my familiar bust scenario. I'm also adjusting to the culture shock of a new casino. I only play two to three hours so a min coin RF is all the more excruciating. My next session can't come soon enough to put this fiasco behind me. My one great VP goal was not to be the Sixty Two Buck Sucker.

[FloridaPhil]

When you play like I do a royal flush is just another good hand.  They are rare, but not something to mount above your fireplace.  That said, they always make me smile even if it's $250. I'm beginning to get a handle on what $1 Cheap Strategy is all about.  It's kind of like creating a 5 times multiplier game out of regular deuces wild.  It plays normally when you are betting single coin with small wins here and there. You occasionally get to switch to max coins and nothing happens. Sometimes you will get a deuces wild run up at max coins that you can cash out.  A few times a day you hit a good jackpot at max coins and you go ahead. Once is a great while you hit a max coin quad deuce or royal flush and you jump way ahead.  You would think this would make for a real cash hungry game, but it seems to have the opposite effect.The Cheap Strategy offers a lot of advantages to a recreational player.  Among these are:You can play at a higher denomination without a large bankrollThe odds are frequently better at the dollar levelIt helps you to stay away from the high limit slots to recover your lossesYour comps are as least as good as playing max coin quartersSetting your low limit at $50 allows you to walk out of the casino with money more oftenIt's way more funThe only real disadvantage I have found is the dreaded short coin royal.  Once you get over this mental problem, you'll be much better off.  In my opinion video poker that doesn't rely on a royal flush for long term winning is a much better game for most recreational players.  Chasing royals is not a game I want to get back into.   

[FAA]

The only real disadvantage I have found is the dreaded short coin
royal.  Once you get over this mental problem, you'll be much better
off. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Impossible to discount in JOB, as I learned from painful experience. I will still be playing Cheap, but as a two coiner. You must get at least $125 from a RF! Don't feel quite comfortable w DW yet. I guess I'm mired in the newbie JOB phase.

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=FAA]Impossible to discount in JOB, as I learned from painful experience.[/quote]I totally agree.  I would always play JOB with max coins.  Who wants to wait 40,000 hands for something good and then get short changed?  Not this guy... 

[FAA]

I hadn't come close to 40,000, so it still had an unattainable mystique. And hell, I wasn't even supposed to be there, as I was running late. Had I played max, never would have survived on self imposed $5. Just an inexplicable lightning bolt! They usually are, I'm sure.

[WVRadar]

The only real disadvantage I have found is the dreaded short coin royal.  Once you get over this mental problem, you'll be much better off.  In my opinion video poker that doesn't rely on a royal flush for long term winning is a much better game for most recreational players.  Chasing royals is not a game I want to get back into.   









There is one other disadvantage to playing dollars instead of quarters: playing time. Instead of a minimum or 80 plays for your $20, you are reduced to 20. I like to maximize my time playing while still having the thrill of betting at a higher level on occasion. Maybe that's why I enjoy JOB, it is a much more deliberate process to get to the $50 cashout level instead of games like DDB with a quick payout or bust.

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=WVRadar]There is one other disadvantage to playing dollars instead of quarters:
playing time. Instead of a minimum or 80 plays for your $20, you are
reduced to 20.[/quote]I agree playing dollars with traditional strategy requires a larger bankroll.  However, when playing with the Cheap Strategy, you are only betting $1 instead of $1.25 on most hands. This in itself cuts your cash requirements back a significant amount.  Also, with Cheap Strategy Deuces Wild you often hit a decent max coin hand catching you back up and allowing you to play close to even much more often.  This is a huge advantage to me personally as a $250 max coin quarter quad deuce or the very rare $1,000 royal flush doesn't excite me any more.Right now I am at the perfect video poker place for me personally.  By increasing my bankroll slightly, I am playing for a chance at a $1,000 quad deuce which is nine times more likely than a max coin quarter royal or a $4,000 royal equal to 4 max coin quarter royals!  I do have a chance of losing $300-$400 a day on a really bad day, but I can easily do that playing max coin quarters.  I'm not trying to sell anyone on playing the way I do, but this thing works and I can't believe anyone hasn't discovered it earlier.   I think it's probably because players were so used to 99% or greater machines that no one ever tried it. In today's world of 95-98% video poker, the old system just doesn't cut it anymore.