royal flush

[pokeherguy]

Game=DDB, 1$ denomination at 5 coin bet
"Pay table"
 
Royal Flush=$1,500
Aces w/kicker=$2,000
Aces=$800
2's,3's,4's w/kicker=$800
2's,3's,4's=$400
Quad 5's-K's=$250
Straight Flush=$200
Full House=$30
Flush=$25
Straight=$20
3 of a kind=$15
 
 
First time I've ever seen a Game King video poker machine set up this way as far as the payout for a royal flush.

[New2vp]

Not terribly attractive, is it?

[buggzy]

would not play with this paytable

[Casino Knight]

I've seen the $1500 Royal payout at the Venetian high limit room. Actually, I sat down at the machine because it was a 9/6 DDB game. Then, I looked up and saw that horrible Royal payout.As for the 6/5. That's plentiful on cruise ships and Indian casinos in the lower limits, but with 4000 coin Royals.CK

[Eduardo]

If I entered this right in VPW, that's a 93.4% return?! Run away fast!

[BillyJoe]

Are you sure that wasn't a 10-coin max bet machine? That may explain the non-enhanced RF payout at the 5-coin level. I have seen a lot more of the 10-coin max bet machines lately.  

[pokeherguy]

billyjoe, good call, as a matter of fact it was 10-coin max bet but then the royal flush paid 8,000 credits.  I've been playing for 16 years now and it's the first time I've ever seen anything like it. To me it there is no explanation for a non-enhanced RF payout and in my opinion it is unacceptable and even increases my distrust of certain casino operations. I thought it was a given fact that a RF was the ultimate hand regardless of the amount of credits played and it should carry the highest payout. I can't speak for everyone but the first thing I notice is the pay for the full house, flush and straight to determine the payback percentage and take the rest for granted since I always play DDB. How they are allowed to do this type of thing amazes me and sheds light on whose side those who are supposed to regulate them are on. If a player were to drop down to the $.50 cent denomination and play the 10 credit max the payout would be 8,000 credits or $4,000 for a five dollar bet, but the same $5 bet on the $1 denom only pays 1,500 credits, to me it's a shamefull business practice that only exposes the greed on the part on the casino. Yes, it is there for all to see, but it shouldn't be allowed.

[onemoretry]

I find it difficult to believe that a person who has played video poker for 16 years has not realized that playing short coin amost always results in a relatively lower royal flush payout.
 
That fact is not hidden.  It is right there when you look at the pay scale.

[Eduardo]

I have not been playing for 16 years but I also have rarely seen this and it confused me for several hands before I got up. I won't play on a 10 coin machine, it throws me off. I think I saw it at the Palazzo. Their pay schedules were the most wacked out I've seen. Almost nothing familiar at all. Most places have the standard 5 coin max with a 4000 royal.





If I wanted to play that amount, I would play a 50 cent machine instead of quarters , not 10 credits.



In my case the confusion wasn't the royal payout, but the fact that I was going down 10 credits at a time after hitting max bet. Everything looked a little funny on that machine, not welcoming at all when I play what I'm used to.

[cddenver]

In my case the confusion wasn't the royal payout, but the fact that I was going down 10 credits at a time after hitting max bet. Everything looked a little funny on that machine, not welcoming at all when I play what I'm used to.
 
I've never played a 10-coin machine or even examined the pays, but I'd assume the casinos' thinking on the pay for a RF on anything less than a full bet would be the same as with a standard 5-coin machine.  That would be to have the best pay for a RF available only on a max bet as an incentive for players to play max coins.  So I'd say that as a principle the short pays on a 10-coin machine are no more nefarious than those on a 5-coin one.
 
I'd consider it a bit unethical in the ultra-short term in the sense that the pays can be confusing for someone sitting down for the first time at a 10-coin machine since it's difficult to see what the pays are, but the pays should become clear after a few hands. 
 
As I said, I've never played 10-coin.  The next time I go play I'll sit down at one and see just how confusing it is.
 
One trick the casinos here used to pull in the old single-denom days was to stick some 50-cent or $1 machines in banks of quarter machines.   Definitely unethical, but legal.  IMO, things like that are more stupid than unethical - a casino's take isn't going to be too high on those machines since players will notice the higher denomination pretty quickly and move.  Not worth the bad PR.  There were a couple of negative articles in the local media about that and the local places stopped doing it.