Barnyard Poker

[olds442jetaway]

     I noticed Mohegan Sun recently put in some of these machines as well as some other oddball vp games. I haven't even looked at the game or paytables at all, but was wondering if in general this game is worth playing at all or if it is just another gimmick vp game with lousy paytables. Final question. Does anyone know why on multi line games the paytables are always worse than single line games? If anything, I would think people would bet much more on a 50 or 100 play machine and in the long run the casino would make out fine. I usually find the paytables on those machines to be in the 95-97% range. I have never found a multi line game of any sort that has 99 percent paytables.

[Vman96]

I would play it sometimes, and avoid it like the plague most other times...

As for the whole multigame thing, I never really got that either. 5 play quarters is more per pull than dollars. Maybe they realize that the average multiline player may care less about paytables? I don't have proof, but I tend to think this from observing others. Same goes for "gimmick" games.   

[FloridaPhil]

[quote]I have never found a multi line game of any sort that has 99 percent paytables.[/quote]This is the case in many casinos, but there are exceptions.  The Hollywood Hard rock has three play 9/6 jacks in quarters and I have seen NSU deuces in three play.  Just like the single line games, you need to scout out the good machines. I never liked multi line games because they can eat up your bankroll fast on a bad day.

[onemoretry]

I have never found a multi line game of any sort that has 99 percent paytables.
You don't play where I do.

At Seneca Niagara, I play 5 line 8/5 bonus poker. I play the same game, either 3,5 or 10 line at Main Street Station. At the M, I play 3 line 98.91% deuces wild with a progressive royal.

A staple for many years at our "local" casino was 9/6 JOB, 10 line 25c, or 5 line 50c. Alas, the management geniuses reduced it to 8/5 JOB about 18 months ago.

It is true that multiline can, at times, be absolutely devastating to your bankroll. Nevertheless, I much prefer it over single line - to me it is just more entertaining.   

[alpax]

In the past it was speculated from the Wizard of Vegas forums that the pay schedules are lowered for gimmick games because it has huge potential jackpot hits and the house wants to accrue enough from its larger holds to pay it off when it happens (I think they can still do that with full pay schedules).

Barnyard Poker is one of those games that adds to the overall return to the game. It is viewed in the same category as Ultimate X and Double STP. The bonus multiplier grows quickly and the animals blow up often since a pair is dealt 43.2% of the time (2.16% for 3 of a kind), which is the minimum it takes to raise the multiplier.

I've played the nickel denom DDB edition of Barnyard Poker for fun. I noticed the paytables for each.

2 cent = 7/5
5 and 10 cent = 8/5
25 cent = 9/5

I looked at Wizard of Odds and saw 9/5 was considered Full Pay for this game, even the website has set DDB for 9/5 so I believe short pay is all you will get with this gimmick.

[Vman96]

Yeah, I think the best available paytable for this game is 9/5 Jacks. Many newer IGT games are coming out this way. No 99%+ allowed. :( One big exception is "Hot Roll" (max. 99.96%). Biggest actual paytable I've seen is 8/5 Bonus (99.17%) for quarters at Gold Coast.

[alpax]

For Hot Roll (Good Times Pay on steroids?), I believe the frequency of the dice rolls and the fair roll outcomes are well balanced to a point where the gimmick game does not add more to the theoretical value.

However I never understood about gimmick games that boost the overall return comes in shorter pay schedules even if the full pay with the boost is still under 100%. Most of the gimmicks jacks up the variance gets significantly to a point where casino operators can still fear about potentially high jackpots, so they still short the paytables when its on the casino floor.