VP Statistics

[pokeherguy]

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[shadowman]

All that info is available in winpoker, WVP, and the other software tutors. Do you have one of them?

[pokeherguy]

nope.

[shadowman]

Here is the average number of hands using expert play to get the various hands:
 
Zip-1.8
high pair-4.7
two pair-8.1
3 of a kind-13.3
straight-78
flush-88
full house-92
4oak (5-10)-613
4oak (2-4)-2601
4oak (aces)-5761
4oak (2-4 w/kicker)-6983
4oak (aces w/kicker)-16236
straight flush-9123
royal flush--40799

[pokeherguy]

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[shadowman]

The cycle for all of the 4 oaks should be around 420. Your numbers are bad enough that I'd definitely be questioning the randomness. It would not be unusual to see poor number in a few categories but not in all of them. I'd take the numbers to the Arkansas gaming board and let them know. There are ways to test the machines.

[cddenver]

Shadowman is right on that.  With that amount of play your quads-in-general number should be much closer to the norm, with some types above average and some below.  That really does look unusual.  In my own play I usually settle in at that overall average by the end of January, with only small movements above and below it through the rest of the year.

[pokeherguy]

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[details]

Shadowman you stated 4oak  cycle is about 420. OK, I see that would be for JB.  How do you figure out a cycle of 4oak for bonus games like SA or DDB? Is it the same as JB?

[shadowman]

For JOB the cycle time is 423 hands. It is slightly different for DDB/SA because of strategy differences. To find the number for any game divide the longest 4 oak cycle time by each of the 4 oak cycles times. Add these together and divide into that longest cycle time. For DDB:
16236/16236 = 1
16236/6983 = 2.33
16236/5761 =2.82
16236/2601 = 6.24
 
16236/631 = 25.73
 
16236/(25.73+6.24+2.82+2.33+1) = 425
 
This number is an approximation because I did quite a bit of rounding.