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I was at M casino in Henderson this week.
I heard glass breaking, but didn't bother to discover the source of it, just assuming a cocktail waitress dropped her tray. Then, security guards, slot technicians and "suits" appear just behind my bank of machines.
Whoa, the glass breaking was a guy smashing the front of his video poker machine (with his fist, I learned).
He didn't wait around for the employees to appear.
According to a slot tech, this happens often enough, they are not surprised.
I'm thinking, if someone has anger management issues, or can't afford to lose the rent, maybe that person needs to self-exclude.
Ha, now it will be done on his behalf . . .
Some people should not be in a casino
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DougJ
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FAA
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If he recently used a card, the authorities can easily pick him up. If he's been anonymous, a bit harder. But he may want to lay low for a year anyway!
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FloridaPhil
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I have seen this a few times myself. Hollering and cussing at the machines is common. When players lose money, some get angry. When they lose the rent money, it's a disaster. I read recently that 63% of Americans could not pay a $1,000 car repair bill without a loan. I don't know if that's accurate, but it could explain casino anger issues.
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DaBurglar
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The simple incontrovertible truth is that casinos & gambling, much like booze, drugs, sex, food, and (apparently) video games/social media, is potentially addicting and therefore, harmful to a certain segment/percentage of the population. This is not a "knock" or judgemental criticism of such people, this is just how it is, a basic fact of life. No one chooses to be born with a predisposition to alcoholism, or chooses to be predisposed to diabetes and obesity...it just happens. What a person CAN choose, though (once they learn they have a problem with whatever), is to effectively and adequately deal with whatever problem they are stuck with... This separates the good from the bad, the success stories from the horror stories.
Whoever this guy is that punched out the VP game, he is now at a crossroads in his life....he will have to deal with the consequences of this latest action (paying for the damages, possibly criminal court with community service or probation), but he can enjoy the rest of his life if he takes responsibility and accepts he has no business ever being in a casino again. He can become a example for people with similar troubles....
Casinos and the gaming industry in general obviously know and admit that their "product" (i.e. the casino itself and the action and "fun" it generates and promotes) causes a certain amount of harm and adverse negative consequences for the community in general, as evidenced by how new casinos in new communities now always setting aside and allocate funds for gambling addiction treatment, and commission various "impact" assessments on how the casino will both benefit and harm the host community.
Whoever this guy is that punched out the VP game, he is now at a crossroads in his life....he will have to deal with the consequences of this latest action (paying for the damages, possibly criminal court with community service or probation), but he can enjoy the rest of his life if he takes responsibility and accepts he has no business ever being in a casino again. He can become a example for people with similar troubles....
Casinos and the gaming industry in general obviously know and admit that their "product" (i.e. the casino itself and the action and "fun" it generates and promotes) causes a certain amount of harm and adverse negative consequences for the community in general, as evidenced by how new casinos in new communities now always setting aside and allocate funds for gambling addiction treatment, and commission various "impact" assessments on how the casino will both benefit and harm the host community.
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FAA
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This may well be a cautionary tale. I am going to curb consecutive day trips to decompress from the chaos VP screens throw at us. I generally pull the plug after $1,000 coin in. If I'm still half solvent, that's plenty to celebrate. I'm not predisposed to violence. But the general state of dwindling bankroll is a big disincentive. I've already had numerous successful trips this month just by being more cautious and judicious. No jackpot, but good gains at minimal risk.
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DaBurglar
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This may well be a cautionary tale. I am going to curb consecutive day trips to decompress from the chaos VP screens throw at us. I generally pull the plug after $1,000 coin in. If I'm still half solvent, that's plenty to celebrate. I'm not predisposed to violence. But the general state of dwindling bankroll is a big disincentive. I've already had numerous successful trips this month just by being more cautious and judicious. No jackpot, but good gains at minimal risk.
We all know people who delude themselves vis-a-vis gambling and casinos....somehow, despite all we know about the inexorable laws of mathematics and probability and how casinos operate, certain people "never lose", or alternatively, win far in excess of the majority of gamblers, either in terms of frequency of actual trial or amount of profit....or so they claim.
Similarly, certain people, while grudgingly acknowledging they're losing money they really cannot afford to lose, choose to put faith in the mythical "comeback", the one big win or trip or session, or bet, that restores order and their bankroll....and when it doesn't happen, they react like the dude in the original story who punches screens.
Lucky hats, lucky coins, lucky shirts, and all manner of totems find their way into the mix...belief in some mythical, bs concept like "balance or reciprocity", that because I'm nice to people (which is simply what we are SUPPOSED to be, because that's how we want to be treated, not because we expect something in return) will result in me hitting a jackpot or three when I go to my next casino visit, finds its way inside peoples' minds.
That's when you know you have problems...nothing bothers me more, from a concerned welfare point of view...
We all know people who delude themselves vis-a-vis gambling and casinos....somehow, despite all we know about the inexorable laws of mathematics and probability and how casinos operate, certain people "never lose", or alternatively, win far in excess of the majority of gamblers, either in terms of frequency of actual trial or amount of profit....or so they claim.
Similarly, certain people, while grudgingly acknowledging they're losing money they really cannot afford to lose, choose to put faith in the mythical "comeback", the one big win or trip or session, or bet, that restores order and their bankroll....and when it doesn't happen, they react like the dude in the original story who punches screens.
Lucky hats, lucky coins, lucky shirts, and all manner of totems find their way into the mix...belief in some mythical, bs concept like "balance or reciprocity", that because I'm nice to people (which is simply what we are SUPPOSED to be, because that's how we want to be treated, not because we expect something in return) will result in me hitting a jackpot or three when I go to my next casino visit, finds its way inside peoples' minds.
That's when you know you have problems...nothing bothers me more, from a concerned welfare point of view...
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matginlv
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I had one of those wanted to punch the machine moments this weekend at Red Rock. Had a machine deal me 4 to the flush (diamonds) with a Ace of Clubs. Hold the four to flush, and the machine deals me....Ace of Hearts.
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DaBurglar
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I had one of those wanted to punch the machine moments this weekend at Red Rock. Had a machine deal me 4 to the flush (diamonds) with a Ace of Clubs. Hold the four to flush, and the machine deals me....Ace of Hearts.
Hey matginlv...Why don't you just pretend you won? And then tell everyone and anyone who'd listen that you hit a fantastic jackpot? Who's gonna know? Besides you and God I mean...
Some people call it the power of positive thinking...their version of it goes something like "refuse to acknowledge or admit to losing like the vast majority of people do...steadfastly maintain that, despite the fact that the casino's games are mathematically tilted in the casino's favor, such trivial concerns do not apply to ME! Where even the best players are happy to win maybe ... MAYBE half the time, I myself win 80, 85 or even 90% of the time! I don't care that this is impossible, I don't care who doubts my claims, I am POSITIVE that I can get away with such stupefyingly inane claims because most people are idiots and I'm better than most people because I helped an old lady with a bag of groceries One time back in the summer of 87..."
Get the picture here? You need to control yourself, and this includes your inner dark side that wants to have everything in your life go exactly the way you want, that wants to control exactly what people think and say about YOU...compulsive gamblers are selfish narcissistic people. When they lose they either punch machines (or good forbid, other people) or they falsely make up stories that they win instead of losing because they can't face reality AND because they can ease their pain by vicariously living in the eyes and minds of other people who they THINK they have convinced they are prolific, exceptional, one of a kind winners.
Bottom line, don't punch machines, don't gamble with money you can't afford to lose (or with money that could be utilized to help other people or to address a very real serious problem)...and if you are a believer in Providence or Synchronicity or reciprocity...or KARMA, then you really should be taking the money you are about to blow on gambling and instead giving it to a homeless shelter, or charity, or something... ANYTHING besides a flippin' casino!
Hey matginlv...Why don't you just pretend you won? And then tell everyone and anyone who'd listen that you hit a fantastic jackpot? Who's gonna know? Besides you and God I mean...
Some people call it the power of positive thinking...their version of it goes something like "refuse to acknowledge or admit to losing like the vast majority of people do...steadfastly maintain that, despite the fact that the casino's games are mathematically tilted in the casino's favor, such trivial concerns do not apply to ME! Where even the best players are happy to win maybe ... MAYBE half the time, I myself win 80, 85 or even 90% of the time! I don't care that this is impossible, I don't care who doubts my claims, I am POSITIVE that I can get away with such stupefyingly inane claims because most people are idiots and I'm better than most people because I helped an old lady with a bag of groceries One time back in the summer of 87..."
Get the picture here? You need to control yourself, and this includes your inner dark side that wants to have everything in your life go exactly the way you want, that wants to control exactly what people think and say about YOU...compulsive gamblers are selfish narcissistic people. When they lose they either punch machines (or good forbid, other people) or they falsely make up stories that they win instead of losing because they can't face reality AND because they can ease their pain by vicariously living in the eyes and minds of other people who they THINK they have convinced they are prolific, exceptional, one of a kind winners.
Bottom line, don't punch machines, don't gamble with money you can't afford to lose (or with money that could be utilized to help other people or to address a very real serious problem)...and if you are a believer in Providence or Synchronicity or reciprocity...or KARMA, then you really should be taking the money you are about to blow on gambling and instead giving it to a homeless shelter, or charity, or something... ANYTHING besides a flippin' casino!
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FAA
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If I get frustrated again, I'll just cash out and order a premium drink. I had one lady in either a wheelchair or casino scooter wish me good luck as I sat down last week. I get in a zone even if it's just JOB, so I just nodded. She never even transferred from her chair. She played the bank's end machine from it on an awkward angle. I hate to sit next to people because I can get distracted by peripheral vision, so it worked out for me. Machine was running hot and I debated pocketing my win. But I figured if she made such an effort to enjoy the place, I could at least trudge on. Then she left. Ten minutes later, I got a max quad.
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matginlv
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[QUOTE=matginlv] I had one of those wanted to punch the machine moments this weekend at Red Rock. Had a machine deal me 4 to the flush (diamonds) with a Ace of Clubs. Hold the four to flush, and the machine deals me....Ace of Hearts.
Hey matginlv...Why don't you just pretend you won? And then tell everyone and anyone who'd listen that you hit a fantastic jackpot? Who's gonna know? Besides you and God I mean...
Some people call it the power of positive thinking...their version of it goes something like "refuse to acknowledge or admit to losing like the vast majority of people do...steadfastly maintain that, despite the fact that the casino's games are mathematically tilted in the casino's favor, such trivial concerns do not apply to ME! Where even the best players are happy to win maybe ... MAYBE half the time, I myself win 80, 85 or even 90% of the time! I don't care that this is impossible, I don't care who doubts my claims, I am POSITIVE that I can get away with such stupefyingly inane claims because most people are idiots and I'm better than most people because I helped an old lady with a bag of groceries One time back in the summer of 87..."
Get the picture here? You need to control yourself, and this includes your inner dark side that wants to have everything in your life go exactly the way you want, that wants to control exactly what people think and say about YOU...compulsive gamblers are selfish narcissistic people. When they lose they either punch machines (or good forbid, other people) or they falsely make up stories that they win instead of losing because they can't face reality AND because they can ease their pain by vicariously living in the eyes and minds of other people who they THINK they have convinced they are prolific, exceptional, one of a kind winners.
Bottom line, don't punch machines, don't gamble with money you can't afford to lose (or with money that could be utilized to help other people or to address a very real serious problem)...and if you are a believer in Providence or Synchronicity or reciprocity...or KARMA, then you really should be taking the money you are about to blow on gambling and instead giving it to a homeless shelter, or charity, or something... ANYTHING besides a flippin' casino![/QUOTE]
Just to be clear, I have never or would ever take a loss out on a machine or, more importantly, a person. Seen that before. The only person to blame for bad luck, blowing too much money, etc. is myself. No one put a gun to my head and said play until you're broke. My comment was more tongue in cheek.
As far as lying like some gamblers do about losses, what's the point? Sometimes, the losing stories with the ups and downs are as fun to tell and share as the ones that end in a hand pay.
For me, this is more of a hobby that, currently, I have the disposable cash to enjoy. Once I don't, then I'll have to find something else to do on the weekend in Vegas.
Hey matginlv...Why don't you just pretend you won? And then tell everyone and anyone who'd listen that you hit a fantastic jackpot? Who's gonna know? Besides you and God I mean...
Some people call it the power of positive thinking...their version of it goes something like "refuse to acknowledge or admit to losing like the vast majority of people do...steadfastly maintain that, despite the fact that the casino's games are mathematically tilted in the casino's favor, such trivial concerns do not apply to ME! Where even the best players are happy to win maybe ... MAYBE half the time, I myself win 80, 85 or even 90% of the time! I don't care that this is impossible, I don't care who doubts my claims, I am POSITIVE that I can get away with such stupefyingly inane claims because most people are idiots and I'm better than most people because I helped an old lady with a bag of groceries One time back in the summer of 87..."
Get the picture here? You need to control yourself, and this includes your inner dark side that wants to have everything in your life go exactly the way you want, that wants to control exactly what people think and say about YOU...compulsive gamblers are selfish narcissistic people. When they lose they either punch machines (or good forbid, other people) or they falsely make up stories that they win instead of losing because they can't face reality AND because they can ease their pain by vicariously living in the eyes and minds of other people who they THINK they have convinced they are prolific, exceptional, one of a kind winners.
Bottom line, don't punch machines, don't gamble with money you can't afford to lose (or with money that could be utilized to help other people or to address a very real serious problem)...and if you are a believer in Providence or Synchronicity or reciprocity...or KARMA, then you really should be taking the money you are about to blow on gambling and instead giving it to a homeless shelter, or charity, or something... ANYTHING besides a flippin' casino![/QUOTE]
Just to be clear, I have never or would ever take a loss out on a machine or, more importantly, a person. Seen that before. The only person to blame for bad luck, blowing too much money, etc. is myself. No one put a gun to my head and said play until you're broke. My comment was more tongue in cheek.
As far as lying like some gamblers do about losses, what's the point? Sometimes, the losing stories with the ups and downs are as fun to tell and share as the ones that end in a hand pay.
For me, this is more of a hobby that, currently, I have the disposable cash to enjoy. Once I don't, then I'll have to find something else to do on the weekend in Vegas.
