RNG Questions

[FloridaPhil]

I have to agree Sea Lion. These new machines have some kind of new RNG that seems to give more dead hands.

DaBurglar was a big believe in this theory. In my travels I play some very old machines and a lot of new ones. The machines in the Central City Colorado casino are ancient. I can't say I have noticed a difference in the number of dead hands. Tampa just put in a bunch of new video poker machines. The odds on the new machines have been downgraded. So far I have avoided playing them.

[Sea Lion]

Same thing with the newer machines here in Vegas. Of the ones I've played, almost all of the hands dealt on a 10 play result in a losing hand. If you get one of those rare 3 of a kind dealt, it will almost always be a 5 - K and 99% of the time it will remain a 3 of a kind. Hardly ever a low card (A, 2, 3, 4) triple dealt. The components are newer than the older machines and maybe the RNG is configured to do just that without being detected. The older machines seem to be tighter than before though, and that is through software updates though the control server, (at least that's what I've been told by an insider). I do prefer the older machines for multiplay as I've had the best luck on them.

[olds442jetaway]

Five years ago, a longtime slot tech who was retiring in 2 days told me the RNGs were only partial RNGs whatever that means. I have no way to confirm this, but I can stay close to even on wolf vp and can’t come close at the casino. Same paytables too. Could be coincidence, but it has been this way at least since 2011 when my home casino stopped paying points you can spend on the 99 percent games

[Jstark]

Five years ago, a longtime slot tech who was retiring in 2 days told me the RNGs were only partial RNGs whatever that means. I have no way to confirm this, but I can stay close to even on wolf vp and can’t come close at the casino. Same paytables too. Could be coincidence, but it has been this way at least since 2011 when my home casino stopped paying points you can spend on the 99 percent games

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[billryan]

Five years ago, a longtime slot tech who was retiring in 2 days told me the RNGs were only partial RNGs whatever that means. I have no way to confirm this, but I can stay close to even on wolf vp and can’t come close at the casino. Same paytables too. Could be coincidence, but it has been this way at least since 2011 when my home casino stopped paying points you can spend on the 99 percent games

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Nice. Can't wait to see how this gets misinterpreted. It's like handing a four year old a machine gun.

[case]

Some people are perfectly content to play full coin on negative games. They get free room, free food, tournament invites, draws and even a few gifts. There is more to playing VP then just turning a profit.

That's where I am now. If you play short coin video poker, I can tell you from experience the casino will cut your comps or eliminate them entirely. We value comped rooms and use them frequently to take mini vacations. My free play is about $25 a week. We never pay for food in the coffee shops or for drinks. These comps do not come close to covering our losses, but we enjoy them enough to play max coins.

I go to Vegas 7-8 times a year for at least a week at a time and I can't remember the last time I paid for a room or food. So like you the comps mean a lot to me. Sure I gamble my share in Vegas but also go to shows, rodeo and Nascar race. I went to a Vegas Knight hockey game not long ago. I play good games away from the strip but there is usually a slightly negative pay table. I do play some full pay but comps are much harder to acquire. I have a system in place and it works for me.

I have a Caesars 2 hours from me and I get way more rooms than I can use. At least 3 days a week. Just another place when the urge strikes. You just have to be more conservative gambling at Caesars.

Life is good!

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TONIGHT on cnbc...american greed...episode of rigged iowa lottery... repeated at 1am est...vcr

[FloridaPhil]

TONIGHT on cnbc...american greed...episode of rigged iowa lottery... repeated at 1am est...vcr

I watched that episode. The lottery was able to be rigged because the numbers were selected by a computer. The programmer at the top of that national computer food chain inserted a piece of code allowing him to predict the numbers on certain dates. He did this over a 10 year period and covered up his actions by using relatives and friends as lotto winners. I would be very interested in looking at the code he used. I'm sure they wouldn't release this information.

Is it possible someone could do the same thing with video poker machines? Anything is possible. To pull this off, he/she would need multiple knowing partners. The programmer conspirator would need to have intimate knowledge of the machine code, much of which is proprietary. They would most likely be current or former machine engineers. The question I have is "Is this done so someone can hit huge jackpots or to benefit casinos?". If it's hit and run, it would have been detected long ago. If it's to benefit game manufacturers, the machine salesmen would use this knowledge to sell more machines. The casino's would surely know about it from their reports. I doubt the gaming regulators could find out. It wouldn't be that hard to work around their tests.

This video poker machine rigging is suppose to have happened over the past 10 years. At a minimum, this conspiracy would encompass programmers, engineers, executives, service personnel and casino managers. Over that time, I'm positive someone would have come forward exposing the conspiracy.

If the machines are actually physically being rigged, why not make them all full pay so you can screw more players? There is no need to rig these machines. The player's themselves are their own worst enemy. The house edge, errors, bad choices, greed and poor money management make more than enough profit for the casinos. With this issue, I am in total agreement with the experts.

[FAA]

What's most responsible for our losses? Answer is staring us in the mirror. Greed. If I resolve to play just FP plus $100 coin in, I walk off a winner with a shopping day.

[olds442jetaway]

With artificial intelligence on the horizon on pretty much taking over nearly everything in the coming years, I can only go by my experiences of millions of hands. Over those millions of hands there is at least a 2 percent difference in my practice wolf vp results and casino results with the same games and paytables. I think nowdays anything is possible with computers. One thing have noticed over the years is when nobody is winning jackpots, a short window will open where there jackpots all over the place. The window is tiny, but some huge payouts on multiple machines can be paid really close together. I have experienced this short win no matter what cycle twice in all my years of playing vp. Once a few years ago and once this year.