Noobie question and suggestion please

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Re: Noobie question and suggestion please

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FloridaPhil wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:12 am
Waiting4RF wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:47 am
What is your local casino? Are their VP machines Class III ?
She said she is playing 9/6 Jacks, so I assume they are Class III.
No... The pay table has nothing to do with it being Class 2 or 3.

Class 2 machines are "bingo" machines where the outcome is already determined. Usually they accomplish this by having a "genie" feature or something similar that will change your cards if you hold wrong. There should be a sticker or something indicating as much. But the pay table could still be 9/6. That simply means it will return 9 for a full house and 6 for a flush.

Machines in Vegas, Atlantic City etc are all class 3 by law, where results must be random as expected from a standard deck of cards.

If you aren't sure, you can look up which rules your state follows (or post the casino name here and we will gladly help).

It should be pretty obvious though if you are on a class 2 machine once the special "feature" appears. It's an important question, because if you happen to be in a place with class 2, most advice will be void.

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Post by FloridaPhil »

Good point. I haven't seen a class II video poker machine in years. Tampa had them when they first opened. You could tell the difference as the class II machines automatically held the cards. They were replaced with class III machines some years back.

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Post by advantage playe »

just because a paytable is full pay 9 6 job in no way what so ever means its a class 3 or a vlt.please !!

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Post by advantage playe »

u r correct fl. phil !

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Post by Sarah.W »

Waiting4RF wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:47 am
What is your local casino? Are their VP machines Class III ?
I am in Palm Springs, California. I don’t even know what class iii is.

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Post by Sarah.W »

Eduardo wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:26 am
FloridaPhil wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:12 am
Waiting4RF wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:47 am
What is your local casino? Are their VP machines Class III ?
She said she is playing 9/6 Jacks, so I assume they are Class III.
No... The pay table has nothing to do with it being Class 2 or 3.

Class 2 machines are "bingo" machines where the outcome is already determined. Usually they accomplish this by having a "genie" feature or something similar that will change your cards if you hold wrong. There should be a sticker or something indicating as much. But the pay table could still be 9/6. That simply means it will return 9 for a full house and 6 for a flush.

Machines in Vegas, Atlantic City etc are all class 3 by law, where results must be random as expected from a standard deck of cards.

If you aren't sure, you can look up which rules your state follows (or post the casino name here and we will gladly help).

It should be pretty obvious though if you are on a class 2 machine once the special "feature" appears. It's an important question, because if you happen to be in a place with class 2, most advice will be void.
I don’t think the slots have any special feature. It’s the Agua clentien casino.

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Post by onemoretry »

I looked up the Agua Caliente casino on vpFree2. Several fairly decent games are listed in the inventory. I would think that, being listed on that site, would mean they are class 3 machines (i.e., the real thing).

Interestingly, the inventory does not show 9/6 JOB as being available at less than $1 denomination. But, casino inventories on vpFree2 are often in need of updating.

The resort itself looks to be really posh.

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Post by FAA »

Muy caliente! I'd want to chill at a posh casino too. Sounds like a plan!

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Post by FloridaPhil »

I have found VPfree2.com to be fairly unreliable. I used it extensively on our travels. Back then it was helpful. Not so much now.

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Post by Carcounter »

The arcades at the Jersey Shore like Jenkinson's in Pt. Pleasant have class 2 VP machines that spit out tickets for prizes. They are very old and are very strange. Odd paytables and yes, if you toss a high paying hand like a straight flush you get it back.

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