My JoB journey

[FloridaPhil]

#&%@ no! Never claimed to be.

OK. Counting Olds442jetaway, that's three of us. Anyone else want to admit it?

[OTABILL]

#&%@ no! Never claimed to be.

OK. Counting Olds442jetaway, that's three of us. Anyone else want to admit it?

Of course I'm not a long term winner financially. Then again, I am a recreational player so my objective in playing is entertainment. Neither am I a long term winner in any other recreational activity in which I have participated in. They call cost money. Travel has cost me a lot more than VP through the years.

[FloridaPhil]

Of course I'm not a long term winner financially. Then again, I am a recreational player so my objective in playing is entertainment. Neither am I a long term winner in any other recreational activity in which I have participated in. They call cost money. Travel has cost me a lot more than VP through the years.

Me too. After I retired, I fished a lot of bass tournaments. I won more than it cost me. I supplemented my income by guiding, writing and selling my sponsor's products to fisherman. Later when my wife began selling lakefront property, I helped her sell expensive homes to people who had questions about the lakes. I won some money along the way, a few boats and a lot of tackle which I sold. I wasn't in it to be entertained, it was a business. I never claimed to be an expert, I didn't need to. People could see the fish I brought to the scales.

Anyone can claim to be a video poker expert when you don't have to produce fish. So far I have only seen one expert with a fish. That photo was Bob Dancer standing next to his wife pointing to a $400,000 jackpot. That was enough to convince me he is the real thing. I don't know if the rest of the experts know anything about winning VP. If they do, they would know that winning at anything long term involves a certain amount of luck. If the fish don't bite, you can't weigh them. Royals are the winning fish of video poker.

Anyone else want to join us in admitting we are long term VP losers?

[Eduardo]

Phil, it is only in your head that this place is crawling with advantage players. There are actually what, maybe 3 or 4 here? The rest of us are all recreational players to a degree. That's why your persistent rants on the subject are so annoying. Actually, disrespectful is probably a better word. Because you ignore everyone, ignore questions, can't back up your statements, and then go on with the same accusations. You say the forum gets boring very fast if you don't post. The week you didn't post was the best week in a long time. Get over yourself.

Time to stop counting people who have lost long-term and name the people who claim to be long-term winners. That should be easy for you since you say that's everyone here. How many names you got? We'll wait.

[Tedlark]

Later when my wife began selling lakefront property, I helped her sell expensive homes to people who had questions about the lakes. I won some money along the way, a few boats and a lot of tackle which I sold.

So when you write of winning lots of tackle, which you sold, how is this different from the actions of BD for which you were so critical?

[FloridaPhil]

So when you write of winning lots of tackle, which you sold, how is this different from the actions of BD for which you were so critical?

I have always said BD is a good businessman. Search back on my posts and you will find that to be accurate. My criticism of BD has always been with his marketing and his snarky attitude toward anyone who disagrees with anything he says or does. Thankfully that attitude seems to have abated somewhat on this forum in recent years.

I have led a very diverse life. From the early days of the computer industry, software development, real estate, investing, fishing, auto racing and classic car collecting, I have pretty much met all types of personalities. I have never met any expert in any field that uses abasement as a tool. When I came on this forum, I asked a lot of questions. I always got the standard BD answer.. "You can't do what I do because you aren't as intelligent as I am". I couldn't understand how a "teacher" of anything could have that attitude. I considered that he may have some kind of complex and I let it ride at first.

Eventually, his posts became more hurtful. The "small time players are paying my bills" was one of the most insensitive. When I explained why I play quarter games, he replied with a post stating that $5 games were playable. He followed that up with a post asking if APs were more intelligent people. A ask him questions about playing negative VP, something almost everyone does, and he dodged the answer with more sarcastic remarks. Those questions remain unanswered to this day.

I do not disagree with BDs video poker strategy. Unfortunately, it can only produce a profit if you have everything BD does. Few players do.

BD is about my age. I believe he knows what I am saying is at least partially correct. It's time for him to acknowledge his past mistakes. I have acknowledged mine.

[Tedlark]

Phil my sole purpose was to point out that you were doing the same thing with fishing tackle that BD was doing with the stuff he gets from the casino and yet you were making fun of him for doing so.

[FloridaPhil]

Phil my sole purpose was to point out that you were doing the same thing with fishing tackle that BD was doing with the stuff he gets from the casino and yet you were making fun of him for doing so.

When you are running a business, you make money however and whenever you can. It does seem humorous to me that someone who made a million dollars in six months playing VP would sell casino gifts especially when the only gifts I have ever received from a casino were ice tea glass and T shirts. When I was fishing professionally, I had so much free tackle I could either sell it or throw it in the trash. I gave a lot of it away. My sponsors paid all my entry fees. In return, I promoted their products.

As far as BDs Advantage Play strategy is concerned, I think we are rapidly approaching the end. As the article above points out, positive VP opportunities are been replaced with slots. Those that remain are on borrowed time. This is going to force BD to take one of two possible paths, retire from teaching AP or address questions about playing negative games.

[Tedlark]

So what is it, sell it, throw it in the trash, or gave a lot of it away? At first it was just selling it. Again, no different that what you were critical of him for doing.

[FloridaPhil]

So what is it, sell it, throw it in the trash, or gave a lot of it away? At first it was just selling it. Again, no different that what you were critical of him for doing.

I answered your question. Please find something else to criticize.