My JoB journey

The lighter side... playing for entertainment, less concerned about "the math."
Sarah.W
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Re: My JoB journey

Post by Sarah.W »

Today started at 12:30pm stoped maybe around 3pm, up $55. Kept my $50 and started to play some penny slot. I sat down at a buffalo slot, played $.20 a hand betting 1 line and I hit a bonus, won $16... imagine if I was playing at least $.80 like I used to, before I started playing VP... had at least an hour of fun with that before I gave it back. In the end I still pocketed $50 winning home.

Here is a little summary, I started going to the casino on 1/28/19. In that week, I lost $600 from playing slot, then won $150 free bonus for becoming a club member. Won a RF last month, I am now still up $550. I go to the casino at least 3 times a week. Play about 4 hours on average. I am doing okay playing 9/6 JoB. When I switched to 8/5 bonus poker, that day I was easily lost $200.

My goal is to have fun, win a little each trip, or at least break even each trip. I know sometimes we win sometimes we lose. But based on how I did in the past two months, I don’t think I will lose too much in long run.

I don’t known if you all gave tricks on how to avoid getting hand soreness from playing too long. My right palms hurt because I kept my hand on the same position for hours. Is it just me?

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Post by onemoretry »

That's a great start to your video poker career. A word of caution, though - you will go through periods where it seems you can't hit anything at all. They are inevitable, and they are not near as much fun as you are having right now. You have to accept them, and be able to ride them out.

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Post by Vman96 »

Sorry to point out the derail by Phil, all. Funny thing is, I love to derail in my two main forums. But I really can't hold a candle to Phil here generally.
onemoretry wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:47 am
FloridaPhil wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:21 pm
Sarah, all I do on this forum is report what happens when I play video poker.
Really? It sure wouldn't take much effort to unearth scores and scores of your posts that do a lot more than simply report your playing results.
I wish I read playing results more often. I'm one of the few members here that have written full, immersive trip reports to Vegas and Tunica. I do prefer them to long, repetitive monologues over the same issues that have been logically argued against repeatedly, but it still doesn't change things. That being said, the forum might be a lot less active without it. Well, unless other members started flocking back to post...

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Post by FAA »

KISS method always works. A simple day's entertainment should not exceed $99. Bring little, no ATM.

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Post by FloridaPhil »

Tedlark wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:13 pm
Phil, stop it again with the Bob Dancer bashing. You started it a while back talking about "the experts" who teach playing $5.00 games with an edge is profitable. You now bumped it up to $10.00 games only because Bob Dancer recently wrote of a $10.00 game that he may have been playing. Nowhere, NOWHERE was Bob advocating that anyone but HIM play that game unless they could afford to do so.
Your obsession with protecting Bob Dancer is astonishing. I have most likely increased his website traffic more than anyone on the Internet. He is fully capable of defending himself if he chooses to.

The issue I have with Bob Dancer is not with his strategy, it's what he leaves out of it. In his last post he stated he is currently gambling $50 or more a hand. He stated this game is a positive opportunity. He failed to mention any risk. He may say you shouldn't or can't do what he does, but he leads people to believe math shows there is no risk in playing this game That is a false conclusion.

I want players to know the odds of them profiting from video poker are extremely small. I want them to know that playing VP like the experts allows them to enjoy the casino experience cheaper than most patrons. If they work at it and pay attention to comps, they can enjoy the game at no cost. When someone says they live a nice lifestyle from gambling $50 a hand in a casino, it sets off alarms and it should. That is something that should not be used as a marketing tool.

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Post by Tedlark »

FloridaPhil wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:23 am
Tedlark wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:13 pm
Phil, stop it again with the Bob Dancer bashing. You started it a while back talking about "the experts" who teach playing $5.00 games with an edge is profitable. You now bumped it up to $10.00 games only because Bob Dancer recently wrote of a $10.00 game that he may have been playing. Nowhere, NOWHERE was Bob advocating that anyone but HIM play that game unless they could afford to do so.
I want players to know the odds of them profiting from video poker are extremely small. I want them to know that playing VP like the experts allows them to enjoy the casino experience cheaper than most patrons. If they work at it and pay attention to comps, they can enjoy the game at no cost. When someone says they live a nice lifestyle from gambling $50 a hand in a casino, it sets off alarms and it should. That is something that should not be used as a marketing tool.

But HOW Many times do you have to post your "Surgeon General's Warning" on playing video poker? You are like one of those late night real estate informercials: "HEY! I can show you HOW to make money in the Florida real estate market." Just send me $189.00 and you'll get my system."

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Post by onemoretry »

FloridaPhil wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:23 am
.....but he leads people to believe math shows there is no risk in playing this game That is a false conclusion.
The real false conclusion here is YOURS. He consistently refers to risk, playing within your means, etc. But, just as you conveniently overlook well thought out comments that point out inconsistencies and outright errors in your posts, you choose to disregard that fact.

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Post by advantage playe »

fl phil,if u cant figure out there is great risk playing 50 dollars a hand 1000 hands per hour 50 k coin in per hour u are suffering from a disease called lowatis IQ atis.no conventual cure !!!! lol !!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by FloridaPhil »

I retired in my fifties. Since then, numerous businessmen and women have asked me to help them market more of their products. If I believed they could benefit from my experience, I worked with them on a consulting basis. Since 2002, much of my work has been in the field of Internet marketing. What does this have to do with video poker?

This website costs a lot of money to produce and maintain. The fees they charge for membership do not come close to paying for the administration, much less the development. I am sure this website is at least partially supported by the gaming industry. It's purpose is to promote video poker. Hopefully, it fills casinos, sells games, pays experts and does whatever it takes to make a profit. Knowingly or not, Bob Dancer is part of that effort.

Claiming that you have a math based strategy that can beat the casinos is marketing. It's harmless as long as people don't take it too seriously. Gambling $25, $50 or more a hand in a slot machine is serious business. There are some people who will try it. Not many can afford to, for long anyway.

What is gained by telling players $10 games are profitable? Is he going to tell us where these games are? Of course not. That's like saying I will sell you the Lost Gold Mine treasure map but you are too stupid to find it. This is the sizzle that sells the steak.

Why is it necessary to discuss playing high stakes video poker games on this forum? There is only one reason, it adds credibility to the marketing. Another marketing tool is the testimonial. Usually this is done by a celebrity or well known person who pitches your product. In this case the celebrity also benefits from the sale of the product. What made him a celebrity? The product did.

Like I have said many times, this marketing plan is pure genius. The only fly in the ointment is that it doesn't work for everyone all the time. A few lucky players attribute their winning to the strategy and become supporters. Some see it as the marketing strategy it is and don't bother. I accept it. I use it to reduce the cost of my visits to the casino. I don't expect it will make me any richer and that's fine with me.

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Post by tech58 »

onemoretry wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:22 pm
That's a great start to your video poker career. A word of caution, though - you will go through periods where it seems you can't hit anything at all. They are inevitable, and they are not near as much fun as you are having right now. You have to accept them, and be able to ride them out.
lots of hard learned wisdom from 1mor in this post.Especially the ride-em-out part but sometimes it's hard to even stay on the horse.

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