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[Webman]

I won't touch the other points, but I can tell you that shadowman and oej719 both have well a well-established history here, as do many other "critics" who have chimed in. These are not duplicate accounts set up to discredit you, babybubba.  This forum has been around for some time now, and there was plenty on non-controversial discussion on a lot of different points until your arrival.
 
The "Fa La La La La.... La la la la" thread that brought you here was a relatively new topic and your strategies have seldom been brought up until that point.

[MikeA]

I won't touch the other points, but I can tell you that shadowman and oej719 both have well a well-established history here, as do many other "critics" who have chimed in. These are not duplicate accounts set up to discredit you, babybubba.  This forum has been around for some time now, and there was plenty on non-controversial discussion on a lot of different points until your arrival.
 
The "Fa La La La La.... La la la la" thread that brought you here was a relatively new discussion.




 
Hey, I'm me!  I know that for a fact!  I just checked in the mirror this morning and there is just barely enough of me to add up to 1. 

[babybubba]

Webman, shadow is a computer geek who has even more computers than I do, and unlike me, he takes a laptop wherever he goes. The fact that one joined in Sept. and the other in Oct. is just his style. He's posted under at least 3 aliases on fezziksplace--always trying to mask his original style with a dufus style and back again. The fact that he fools you and not me isn't all that strange because he's never been able to fool me.
 
"Jean Scott, Bob Dancer, Cogno, Paladin, ..."
 
Please provide evidence or better yet, please provide where they've offered to supply evidence that they've done anything but lose big time. and Cogno's just another casino employee who can't stay away from the machines. Paladin's someone who couldn't beat the machines so he took to the on-line gaming business. Try again.
 
$1370 profit and another nail in your coffin of addiction to playing vp anywhere it's offered. BTW--nice amount
 
Well, seeing that I've never lost an argument on FP and no one's ever had enough conviction or courage to back up their words and bet with me on fezziksplace, I'd say you just damaged your credibility again. But what the heck, you can just zip on over to your alias oej

[Webman]

Babybubba, you are being excessively paranoid here and accusing others of exactly what you were accused of. Take a step back. This is not a vast conspiracy against you that took months to carry out. I have had correspondence with many of our members outside of this forum and you are simply incorrect in your assertions.

[babybubba]

Babybubba, you are being excessively paranoid here and accusing others of exactly what you were accused of. Take a step back. This is not a vast conspiracy against you that took months to carry out. I have had correspondence with many of our members outside of this forum and you are simply incorrect in your assertions.
 
No surprise. You initially come on and say that other guy (Denny?) wasn't me after shadow nervously "asserted" it was, then you say nothing about his paranoia of worrying about my having multiple computers, and in fact, bought his side based on "assumptions".
 
Now, while I'm giggling over him being caught having at least two aliases here and 3 on the other forum (ever get the idea he's OBSESSED over me?) and while he's squirming out of betting me on another thread here, you're missing the point that all I want him to do is make that bet with me. Of course, someone who's gloating about a $1370 profit might be too embarrassed to ask if we could lower the bet.

[Webman]

Please provide your evidence of him being "caught" with multiple aliases here and I will gladly remove one. Of course, if I have spoken with some of these members personally and they didn't look or sound very similar, that might change your assertions?
 
Every member who has stepped in to the Fa La La La La.... La la la la discussions with you (which shadowman and others were suspicious of) has been a new account, so obviously I am entitled to be more skeptical of those accounts than people I have interacted with for some time.
 
I have tried to be very impartial in all of these discussions and not take sides on any issue, rather I have hoped to foster a healthier discussion than was taking place so that both sides would state their cases clearly without getting personal.  That, sadly, hasn't changed a whole lot. Everything appears to be getting personal. Very few "points" have been made in the entire shadowman / Fa La La La La.... La la la la forum with any sort of evidence. I was hoping that a topic could be started on a specific point, both sides could present their case, and people could then make a decision based on those two sides. Instead, all we get is "Booya!" and "Score another one for me!" without knowing what was ever proven.
 
Having said ALL that, if you feel this forum is being unfairly moderated then I apologize, but we are doing our best here.  No ideas or theories are being swept under the rug. But when it comes to bickering, accusations, personal matters and managing the community, we simply have to do something. If all of those other issues end up in favor of one member over another, then it is unfortunate. But I have stated multiple times that people should stick to the issues and not get into this other garbage.  It looks like this will have to work itself out and it is being watched closely.
 
Finally, if you truly want to make that wager, this online Web site is not the place for it to happen. You will have to address that matter somewhere else. Discussion of any such bet is no longer allowed here. You can both intelligently discuss your theories without needing to wager on whether they are correct or not. Just state them.

[babybubba]

"Please provide your evidence of him being "caught" with multiple aliases here and I will gladly remove one. Of course, if I have spoken with some of these members personally and they didn't look or sound very similar, that might change your assertions?'
 
After a period of years of someone being obsessed over you, it's very simple to recognize who's doing the obsessing--just like I did for his aliases that he admitted to on FP.
 
I have no problem with the admin. nor anything else here. Part of my enjoyment when reading this stuff comes from my exposing of the phonies and detractors who just haven't made it like they believed they would. The rest of the readers are just interested in learning how to play correctly, which accounts for some of my e-mails in the past several weeks.
 
I'll eliminate any further discussion about the bet offer since I see it won't materialize anyway. But wouldn't it be enjoyable to watch critics squirm as my 8 years of documentation proves the math geeks wrong?

[Webman]

But wouldn't it be enjoyable to watch critics squirm as my 8 years of documentation proves the math geeks wrong? Indeed it would.  I for one would love to see that, as would many others.  I believe that's all people are asking for.

[rascal]

Really, there's no documentation that Rob can present that will quiet all of his critics. If he presents copies of W2G's, there is nothing to show what the total amount of coin-in was to result in the winnings. If he presents income tax returns with personal info blacked out, it would be impossible to prove if these were the actual copies filed with the IRS or simply dummy copies. If he presents bank deposit records there is no way to prove the source of the deposits.
The only way Rob can realistically prove his system is by allowing someone to follow him and personally witness his winnings over a two or three day period. In the past he has refused to allow this.
 
If his system works and he truly believes in it, then he would allow a one-time observer to witness him playing for two or three days with no strings attached and no further conditions. I do not expect this to happen.
 

[babybubba]

[QUOTE=babybubba]But wouldn't it be enjoyable to watch critics squirm as my 8 years of documentation proves the math geeks wrong? Indeed it would.  I for one would love to see that, as would many others.  I believe that's all people are asking for.[/QUOTE]
 
Exactly, and rascal is of course wrong in his assumption. And my way of proving my winning is also exactly why Fezzik & shadow found escape routes to the bet and why my public challenge to any math guru-doubter or guru-wannabee has never been accepted. Rascal, don't be saying there's no way to prove it because if there wasn't then at least one of these big mouths would have stepped up to the plate instead od cowering away hiding behind their computers. What's most telling? That I included the point that if there were still any doubts after reviewing the documentation, I would pay for an argitrator to step in and make a decision--which would be FINAL & BINDING. Seems to me anyone who REALLY doesn't believe me would jump on this.
 
In case you're interested, here's the proper line-up of documentation I'm fully prepared to present--not what you mentioned.
 
1. Every time I've went to Nv. to play (single-play strategy) I've gone to my bank and withdrew $17,200--and a few times another $40,000 if I needed to play the $100 machines. There's an irrefutable record of that. Upon completion of the session, I either immediately went to the LV branch (if it was open) or the one in Phx. the next day and re-deposited my initial withdrawal plus winnings--or minus losses.
 
2. Alone #1 means a lot but is not all-telling. That's why I'll submit my contemporaneous IRS-required gaming records from each trip that exactly correspond to my withdrawal/re-deposit records at the bank.
 
3. Still in doubt? I've had 3 IRS audits since 1999, and the findings (in writing) in each of those (one a multi-year audit) meticulously correspond to both my contemporaneous gaming records and my bank withdrawal/re-deposit records. This review will include my entire tax returns for each year, and nothing will be "blacked out". My wife's info is in there too, which is a reason for the hefty amount of the bets plus the reason I'll have an NDA signed by anyone who looks at my personal information.
 
4. Not enough? Then take a chance on the Fa La La La La.... La la la la-paid, court-appointed arbitrator. I've contacted channel 3 in LV in the past to see if they'd be interested in following/filming this unprecedented proof-or-gambling winning, and they wanted it. So I imagine if you want to be famous, they still are interested.
 
So is anyone interested? How about 10 or 12 big mouths here pool their resources?? I'll even write another Gaming today article on it but be careful--already in the past Fezzik and shadow showed bravery until it came time to officially accept, then they ran like children after getting scolded. Both episodes were published. And you wonder why shadow is obsessed (i.e., angered) with me?