VP Progression
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Re: VP Progression
Sounds like a lot of "ifs ands or buts" to me.
Why would someone take on such risks. If your bankroll is that size do something smart with the bulk of it and take a small portion and play and maybe get lucky and enjoy the challenge of playing now an then. I actually do a progression on db ddb sa and tbp and take a chance when it is called for and find myself ahead by quit a sum at times. It is all for fun and I realize that. When the fun stops I stop. Life is bigger than a casino, system or any VP game. I never played VP until success came to me in other endeavors of life. VP will not allow anyone to reach goals or success. If you took all the money in the world and divided up evenly between everyone, within 10-15 years we would be right back where we are today in terms of classes. There would be the ultra rich, middle class, poor, homeless etc.
Why would someone take on such risks. If your bankroll is that size do something smart with the bulk of it and take a small portion and play and maybe get lucky and enjoy the challenge of playing now an then. I actually do a progression on db ddb sa and tbp and take a chance when it is called for and find myself ahead by quit a sum at times. It is all for fun and I realize that. When the fun stops I stop. Life is bigger than a casino, system or any VP game. I never played VP until success came to me in other endeavors of life. VP will not allow anyone to reach goals or success. If you took all the money in the world and divided up evenly between everyone, within 10-15 years we would be right back where we are today in terms of classes. There would be the ultra rich, middle class, poor, homeless etc.
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Sounds like a lot of "ifs ands or buts" to me.
Of course there are a lot of "if's, and's and but's". That's what analysis is all about. One of the ultimate forms of mental gymnastics!
In essence, I share your attitude toward gambling. It is definitely a passtime for me. I'm not a rich person, nor am I hurting. I've planned pretty well for a retirement around three years from now and do intend to enjoy it to the extent that my health will allow. That does NOT include putting major portions of it at risk on a BJ table or in a VP machine.
Of course there are a lot of "if's, and's and but's". That's what analysis is all about. One of the ultimate forms of mental gymnastics!
In essence, I share your attitude toward gambling. It is definitely a passtime for me. I'm not a rich person, nor am I hurting. I've planned pretty well for a retirement around three years from now and do intend to enjoy it to the extent that my health will allow. That does NOT include putting major portions of it at risk on a BJ table or in a VP machine.
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That comes out to around $10,000 an hour. That's got to be worth something to most casino hosts
It depends on where you play and what you play. At one of my area casino's, player development cuts the point accrual rate in half on their two FP offerings and the mailed offers are generally reduced by 33%, in comparison to the offers made to player's who primarily play negative games.
It depends on where you play and what you play. At one of my area casino's, player development cuts the point accrual rate in half on their two FP offerings and the mailed offers are generally reduced by 33%, in comparison to the offers made to player's who primarily play negative games.
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cuts the point accrual rate in half on their two FP offerings and the mailed offers are generally reduced by 33%, in comparison to the offers made to player's who primarily play negative games.
Yeah. I've seen it too. VP seems to be about 1/2 the slot comp rates. My wife plays slots pretty much exclusively. Try as I might, I cannot convince her to switch over to something that requires a little skill. But she does beat the hell out of me on room offers! I've never really chased comps, but if they come to me, I'll certainly take them. Our stays in Vegas are generally fully comped downtown though we really haven't "worked" at it.
I never wanted them to know who I was when I was playing AP Blackjack so didn't receive comps and stayed off their lists. I'm on their lists now with VP play (slot clubs) and do receive the standard marketing offers.
Yeah. I've seen it too. VP seems to be about 1/2 the slot comp rates. My wife plays slots pretty much exclusively. Try as I might, I cannot convince her to switch over to something that requires a little skill. But she does beat the hell out of me on room offers! I've never really chased comps, but if they come to me, I'll certainly take them. Our stays in Vegas are generally fully comped downtown though we really haven't "worked" at it.
I never wanted them to know who I was when I was playing AP Blackjack so didn't receive comps and stayed off their lists. I'm on their lists now with VP play (slot clubs) and do receive the standard marketing offers.
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Comps for VP are the same way here in AC. VP is only worth 1/2 the comp rate versus slots at all the casinos. It's a pretty good tradeoff though, since in the long run you'll most likely do much better at VP than slots.
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If I'd hit the quads at the $100 level instead of at the $400 level, I'd have won $65,125 instead of $298,625.00. However, I would have lost a lot more had I been playing at the $400 level from the start. I would have bought in for $440,000 ($40,000*11 sessions) and won $338,000 for a net loss of $102,000 and that is with a 800 coin quad win!
I think this insight is an important one. If you are "unlucky" and win right away (at the lower denoms) you walk home with much smaller gains. If you are "lucky" and lose at several levels until you finally hit at a higher level, you walk home much better off. This is counter to what most gamblers want. I can see it now ... "Gee, I sure hope I lose, lose, lose when I first get to the casino, then I can get lucky and win big."
Of course, the problem with this approach is the time you lose, lose, lose and never have the big winner. For a finite negative progression to work the probability of a big winner would have to INCREASE as you play. Unfortunately, that is not the case. The probability of any particular result is unchanged by past events. It is exactly the same each and every time you play a hand.
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I'll take the smaller wins and keep my family and house.
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Okay, all these comments are detracting from what is an otherwise great topic for discussion. Please take the sarcastic banter to the appropriate subform where there is plenty of room for it.
I'll be cleaning this thread up a bit now.
I'll be cleaning this thread up a bit now.