Wacky start to New Year's first session
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Wacky start to New Year's first session
I thought I had seen just about everything during 2013 in the way of unusual sessions both on my and other player's play. I decided to stay with 9/6 job for my first session. Two other regular players sat next to me for the entire 8 hours of play (less a couple of short breaks) and all of us were playing the quarter 9/6 job. I never hit a quad, yet caught two straight flushes in clubs. The ace would have given me Royals. Instead I drew the 9 of clubs on both hands!!!!. The other two players had only 1 quad between them and no straight flushes. The player who keeps very detailed records said he had 43 chances at a quad by holding 3 of a kind and he never drew one. I know the odds on every hand of an event are the same, but the probability of the events above must be quite rare. I guess I should expect more of the same from here on out. At least I ended up even for the day because of the straight flushes and a good amount of full house hits.
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about 1/25 for catching the four of a kind, so not too far off really
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Be really careful about explaining one particular 8-hour session. Within any such time period, lots of unusual things happen. there will be occasional days where you get 3 royals in 8 hours. There will be days where you get no quads at all. Neither one indicates that anything basic has changed. It's just that over the short term, anything can happen.If you play 1000 hours and your results are far higher or lower than usual, then maybe that's worth examining. It could be the game isn't being dealt randomly. It could be your skill level isn't near what you thought it was. It could be the game itself isn't as good as you thought it was.But 8 hours? It really means very little.Bob
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I'm still waiting for 2 Royals in one day...lol...I am playing 9/6 job correctly. My lifetime average on Royals is over 1 in 120,000 and even worse lately. That represents at least 400k hands a year for nearly 20 years. That is a lot of vp. 99.5 percent of play is at Ct. casinos. Other players are experiencing similar results. I am not saying there is anything definitely wrong with their machines. The fact is the few die hard vp players that are left in Ct. just don't know what is happening. Things have definitely gotten worse since 2010 for almost everyone as far as hitting Royals go. The players who have been playing games trying to hit aces or aces with kickers have been doing much better. Maybe in the big picture a short run can be years. We really just don't know.
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olds,
Why settle for 2 RF in one day?
With 20+ hours of play over Dec 31-Jan 2 and Sunday, I'm still awaiting a dealt 3 deuces hand on a NSUD machine. Of course JOB gave me 3 - 4 Aces on JOB out of 5 hands holding 3 after I left DDB. Meanwhile, the lower pay machine next to me dealt 2's and Aces on 5 hand DDB.
Your due a number of dealt quads on JOB.
LL
Why settle for 2 RF in one day?
With 20+ hours of play over Dec 31-Jan 2 and Sunday, I'm still awaiting a dealt 3 deuces hand on a NSUD machine. Of course JOB gave me 3 - 4 Aces on JOB out of 5 hands holding 3 after I left DDB. Meanwhile, the lower pay machine next to me dealt 2's and Aces on 5 hand DDB.
Your due a number of dealt quads on JOB.
LL
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Oh, I did get those dealt quads the week between Christmas and and New Years.....All of them on a Deuces Wild game and without the deuces....lol...lol...Best of luck for 2014 LL.
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Unfortunately, it's hard to say how likely these not so great events occurred. Mainly because time is not the proper measure. Hands are.
If your neighbor got an average amount dealt three of a kinds over 8 hours, then he plays pretty slow. (about 273 hands per hour). I'd assume it was below average though. And bricking 43 trips to quads in a row is a nothing too special 15.41%. Now all of these events happening together is probably rare, but without the total hands play, it's hard to say. Even with total hands, it's still hard because a lot happened!
I played a bit of 9/6 JoB in Tunica this past weekend for my first visit of the year. I also went quadless. :( But I only played like 500 hands or so, so it's not too surprising. The more surprising thing to me was that I was still up $50 despite my best hand being a full house.
Also for the 2nd casino trip in a row, a "neighbor" hit a quarter royal in my presence. But this guy was surprisingly generous and offered me $20 to play on him. Since I am poor, I only questioned his action once with "Are you sure?", and then accepted the very generous offer. So I was up $70 if you factor that in... Hopefully he did decent for the rest of the trip afterward.
The only quad hit on JoB that trip was by my g/f doing our traditional "survival challenge" event at Fitz playing on a dollar each, a nickel at a time. She usually plays DDB for anything else. The quad: AAAA4 from just a pair... She won the event, but I would have rather her been playing DDB, so she would have had $20 at least.
I really think stuff like this is why people flock to DDB, even though it's rarely the best paying variant available.
If your neighbor got an average amount dealt three of a kinds over 8 hours, then he plays pretty slow. (about 273 hands per hour). I'd assume it was below average though. And bricking 43 trips to quads in a row is a nothing too special 15.41%. Now all of these events happening together is probably rare, but without the total hands play, it's hard to say. Even with total hands, it's still hard because a lot happened!
I played a bit of 9/6 JoB in Tunica this past weekend for my first visit of the year. I also went quadless. :( But I only played like 500 hands or so, so it's not too surprising. The more surprising thing to me was that I was still up $50 despite my best hand being a full house.
Also for the 2nd casino trip in a row, a "neighbor" hit a quarter royal in my presence. But this guy was surprisingly generous and offered me $20 to play on him. Since I am poor, I only questioned his action once with "Are you sure?", and then accepted the very generous offer. So I was up $70 if you factor that in... Hopefully he did decent for the rest of the trip afterward.
The only quad hit on JoB that trip was by my g/f doing our traditional "survival challenge" event at Fitz playing on a dollar each, a nickel at a time. She usually plays DDB for anything else. The quad: AAAA4 from just a pair... She won the event, but I would have rather her been playing DDB, so she would have had $20 at least.
I really think stuff like this is why people flock to DDB, even though it's rarely the best paying variant available.
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This situation with rarer Royals is exactly the reason I went to single coin/max coin play. My strategy is to consider Royals as straight flushes and forget about the so called Royal Bonus. I hit 4 royals in one day back in 2008, but since then they are rarer than government budget surpluses. Give me a $1,000 quad deuce or a $2,000 4 Ace Kicker and keep your Royals... Caution: Earnings not typical. Your results may vary. Gambling could cause you to lose your entire investment.
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Unfortunately, it's hard to say how likely these not so great events occurred. Mainly because time is not the proper measure. Hands are.
If your neighbor got an average amount dealt three of a kinds over 8 hours, then he plays pretty slow. (about 273 hands per hour). I'd assume it was below average though. And bricking 43 trips to quads in a row is a nothing too special 15.41%. Now all of these events happening together is probably rare, but without the total hands play, it's hard to say. Even with total hands, it's still hard because a lot happened!
I played a bit of 9/6 JoB in Tunica this past weekend for my first visit of the year. I also went quadless. :( But I only played like 500 hands or so, so it's not too surprising. The more surprising thing to me was that I was still up $50 despite my best hand being a full house.
Also for the 2nd casino trip in a row, a "neighbor" hit a quarter royal in my presence. But this guy was surprisingly generous and offered me $20 to play on him. Since I am poor, I only questioned his action once with "Are you sure?", and then accepted the very generous offer. So I was up $70 if you factor that in... Hopefully he did decent for the rest of the trip afterward.
The only quad hit on JoB that trip was by my g/f doing our traditional "survival challenge" event at Fitz playing on a dollar each, a nickel at a time. She usually plays DDB for anything else. The quad: AAAA4 from just a pair... She won the event, but I would have rather her been playing DDB, so she would have had $20 at least.
I really think stuff like this is why people flock to DDB, even though it's rarely the best paying variant available.
I have been bailed out of a few quadless sessions too by bunches of 9/6 full houses in short order. At least 3 of them really close together is like getting a quad. The flushes don't seem to come in bunches like f/h at least for me.
If your neighbor got an average amount dealt three of a kinds over 8 hours, then he plays pretty slow. (about 273 hands per hour). I'd assume it was below average though. And bricking 43 trips to quads in a row is a nothing too special 15.41%. Now all of these events happening together is probably rare, but without the total hands play, it's hard to say. Even with total hands, it's still hard because a lot happened!
I played a bit of 9/6 JoB in Tunica this past weekend for my first visit of the year. I also went quadless. :( But I only played like 500 hands or so, so it's not too surprising. The more surprising thing to me was that I was still up $50 despite my best hand being a full house.
Also for the 2nd casino trip in a row, a "neighbor" hit a quarter royal in my presence. But this guy was surprisingly generous and offered me $20 to play on him. Since I am poor, I only questioned his action once with "Are you sure?", and then accepted the very generous offer. So I was up $70 if you factor that in... Hopefully he did decent for the rest of the trip afterward.
The only quad hit on JoB that trip was by my g/f doing our traditional "survival challenge" event at Fitz playing on a dollar each, a nickel at a time. She usually plays DDB for anything else. The quad: AAAA4 from just a pair... She won the event, but I would have rather her been playing DDB, so she would have had $20 at least.
I really think stuff like this is why people flock to DDB, even though it's rarely the best paying variant available.
I have been bailed out of a few quadless sessions too by bunches of 9/6 full houses in short order. At least 3 of them really close together is like getting a quad. The flushes don't seem to come in bunches like f/h at least for me.
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">This situation with rarer Royals is exactly the reason I went to single coin/max coin play. My strategy is to consider Royals as straight flushes and forget about the so called Royal Bonus. I hit 4 royals in one day back in 2008, but since then they are rarer than government budget surpluses. Give me a $1,000 quad deuce or a $2,000 4 Ace Kicker and keep your Royals... Caution: Earnings not typical. Your results may vary. Gambling could cause you to lose your entire investment.
Good one. We need a little humor to start off the new year. Especially with this arctic weather.
Good one. We need a little humor to start off the new year. Especially with this arctic weather.