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FloridaPhil
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Re: One Week 'Til Biloxi
The Beau still has a small quarter 8/5 JB progressive at the bar and an 8/5 DDB progressive in the back next to the poker room. I don't play dollar VP when I'm playing for multiple days unless I'm way ahead, so I didn't notice the dollar odds at the Silver Slipper. I love the Slipper, but my wife hates the smoke. The Island View has more smokers than any place I've ever seen. They probably average at least one heart attack a day.
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alpax
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The mandatory 3% state tax aside from the federal tax that was brought up in this forum may not make it worthwhile to play the progressive 8/5 JoB when it goes past $1199The paytable for the Deuces must be the same 95.96% 800-200-20-10-8-4-4-3-2-1 from the $1000 royal screenshot on the last trip.The Slipper seems to have single line 25 cent 8/5 BP Super Times Pay according to VPFree, worth playing if STP adds on average 0.5% to the return despite the increased variance. Heard it is a great game to play.I am not sure how effective the air filtration systems are at casinos in general to combat second hand smoke.
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Vman96
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The mandatory 3% state tax aside from the federal tax that was brought up in this forum may not make it worthwhile to play the progressive 8/5 JoB when it goes past $1199The paytable for the Deuces must be the same 95.96% 800-200-20-10-8-4-4-3-2-1 from the $1000 royal screenshot on the last trip.The Slipper seems to have single line 25 cent 8/5 BP Super Times Pay according to VPFree, worth playing if STP adds on average 0.5% to the return despite the increased variance. Heard it is a great game to play.I am not sure how effective the air filtration systems are at casinos in general to combat second hand smoke.
Good point about the W2...if it's above 1200, then yeah you're stuck eating MS taxes.
Regular STP only adds 0.28%, Double STP adds about 0.5%. And that machine was added to the database 6.5 years ago and went through an ownership change. Pretty good chance the game no longer exists at 8/5.
Good point about the W2...if it's above 1200, then yeah you're stuck eating MS taxes.
Regular STP only adds 0.28%, Double STP adds about 0.5%. And that machine was added to the database 6.5 years ago and went through an ownership change. Pretty good chance the game no longer exists at 8/5.
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alpax
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I got it mixed up with Double STP. On the Gambling With An Edge Radio show, if Double STP was the game of the week on this website, during the brief commercial, Dancer would say it adds x% to the return.
If the Slipper has not been updated for years, it is either not a popular place to play or it is a hidden gem. I would agree 8/5 BP STP at quarters is too good to last for so long. A $250 bankroll is not enough to play $1 NSUD based on the nature of that game so it is not feasible.
The VPFree report on Imperial Palace is consistent with what Phil reported. It has 9/6 JoB for quarters as well as multi-denomination 25c to $2 Airport Deuces with a progressive. It is a good place to play even if it is in Biloxi or not, also Boyd operates it and they run promotions quite often.
With this knowledge, if anyone plays VP mostly at Beau, it would mean it would be playing for comps rather than trying to win.
If the Slipper has not been updated for years, it is either not a popular place to play or it is a hidden gem. I would agree 8/5 BP STP at quarters is too good to last for so long. A $250 bankroll is not enough to play $1 NSUD based on the nature of that game so it is not feasible.
The VPFree report on Imperial Palace is consistent with what Phil reported. It has 9/6 JoB for quarters as well as multi-denomination 25c to $2 Airport Deuces with a progressive. It is a good place to play even if it is in Biloxi or not, also Boyd operates it and they run promotions quite often.
With this knowledge, if anyone plays VP mostly at Beau, it would mean it would be playing for comps rather than trying to win.
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FloridaPhil
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Except for the few bar machines at the Island View, the Imperial Palace is currently the best place to play small denomination video poker in Biloxi. Margaritaville was our favorite, but it closed. As soon as it closed, most of the other area casinos lowered their odds to match the Beau. Margaritaville was as close to a Wallmart for video poker players as you could get. It was what a casino should be... no frills, good food and decent odds. I don't believe the odds had anything to do with their closing. I think it was poor management and/or shallow pockets.
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alpax
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Except for the few bar machines at the Island View, the Imperial Palace is currently the best place to play small denomination video poker in Biloxi. Margaritaville was our favorite, but it closed. As soon as it closed, most of the other area casinos lowered their odds to match the Beau.  Margaritaville was as close to a Wallmart for video poker players as you could get. It was what a casino should be... no frills, good food and decent odds.  I don't believe the odds had anything to do with their closing. I think it was poor management and/or shallow pockets.
I've read up on the story of the closing, it does seem like it is more related to underfunding and management, it opened without a hotel and it never got the funding to build the hotel; I suppose it is needed to draw overnight players who will play more than usual if they prolonged their stay. While it was around, it got many positive reviews online, thus no reason it shut down due to lack of good options. The magnitude is no where near what it is with Revel at Atlantic City.
I know this is not Biloxi, but on the VPFree forums there was a discussion topic about the unfavorable changes with the Seminole Hard Rock casinos over the past year.
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You are SO RIGHT about HR Hollywood! Everything changes - VP players used
to be valued, comps, gifts, Free Play was abundant and the hosts couldn't
do enough for you! Now we can't even buy dinner at the Food Court with our
comp dollars! They can only be used for food at the Blue Plate (their
diner/coffee shop) or just across at Constant Grind which is a take-away
sandwich/coffee/dessert counter which closes early in the evening. Until late
last year all of the shows at Hard Rock Live were comped with great seats
and were equal to (most of the same artists) as those we have seen in Vegas
and around the country at other casinos. Now there are no more comped
tickets except for those with "X" cards.
It has become clear that the only really valued players are those with VERY
large bankrolls. The cut-backs hurt many good employees at HR Hollywood -
no comps allowed for food equals greatly reduced business for food court
vendors which resulted in many staff layoffs. Many people that I know cut
way back on their play at HR Hollywood as a result of all of the changes.
One hopes that the pendulum will swing back, but how long that will take is
anyone's guess. Revenues are up according to the reports. The casino does
very well with tourists and does not seem to need the local player,
henceforth the disrespect of late.
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The changes came about when Larry Mullin formerly the COO of Borgata became COO at HR. Amid high hopes I met with the Casino GM and the head of Slot Operations. We exchanged ideas about how to improve every aspect of the property. Turns out the Seminoles ideas centered on getting rid solid local VP players who had the nerve to expect things to at least remain status quo if not improve for them. It took about four months for the completion of their plan. In October 2013, "it's another goodbye to another good friend". Too bad.
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I've read up on the story of the closing, it does seem like it is more related to underfunding and management, it opened without a hotel and it never got the funding to build the hotel; I suppose it is needed to draw overnight players who will play more than usual if they prolonged their stay. While it was around, it got many positive reviews online, thus no reason it shut down due to lack of good options. The magnitude is no where near what it is with Revel at Atlantic City.
I know this is not Biloxi, but on the VPFree forums there was a discussion topic about the unfavorable changes with the Seminole Hard Rock casinos over the past year.
[QUOTE]
You are SO RIGHT about HR Hollywood! Everything changes - VP players used
to be valued, comps, gifts, Free Play was abundant and the hosts couldn't
do enough for you! Now we can't even buy dinner at the Food Court with our
comp dollars! They can only be used for food at the Blue Plate (their
diner/coffee shop) or just across at Constant Grind which is a take-away
sandwich/coffee/dessert counter which closes early in the evening. Until late
last year all of the shows at Hard Rock Live were comped with great seats
and were equal to (most of the same artists) as those we have seen in Vegas
and around the country at other casinos. Now there are no more comped
tickets except for those with "X" cards.
It has become clear that the only really valued players are those with VERY
large bankrolls. The cut-backs hurt many good employees at HR Hollywood -
no comps allowed for food equals greatly reduced business for food court
vendors which resulted in many staff layoffs. Many people that I know cut
way back on their play at HR Hollywood as a result of all of the changes.
One hopes that the pendulum will swing back, but how long that will take is
anyone's guess. Revenues are up according to the reports. The casino does
very well with tourists and does not seem to need the local player,
henceforth the disrespect of late.
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]
The changes came about when Larry Mullin formerly the COO of Borgata became COO at HR. Amid high hopes I met with the Casino GM and the head of Slot Operations. We exchanged ideas about how to improve every aspect of the property. Turns out the Seminoles ideas centered on getting rid solid local VP players who had the nerve to expect things to at least remain status quo if not improve for them. It took about four months for the completion of their plan. In October 2013, "it's another goodbye to another good friend". Too bad.
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