Deuces Wild...going against the math

[olds442jetaway]

     This will have most airport deuces players cringing, but I have had short term success. I wonder what the long term penalty will be playing 4,000 hands at 1.25 per hand. I would like to know at least in round numbers the dollar penalty per session. Thamks. I have pulled deuces quads out of thin air playing this way when I was having a rough session overall. Details below of incorrect plays.
     Going for inside straights...no
     going for a straight flush with one deuce and needing 2 more cards...no
     going for a wild royal with one deuce and two high cards unless the 2 high cards are j,10............no
     tossing 3 to a straight flush with no deuce unless you have something like 6,7,8 lined up in order.........yes
      when dealt 2 deuces and needing only one card for a straight flush, just keep the 2 deuces.........yes
      going for a full house with 2 pair and no deuce instead of just keeping one pair.....no

     I don't know the number, but I realize the long term penalty is likely to be quite high. The reason I played this way for a couple of sessions so far is I had several long sessions where I never completed a wild royal or even a straight flush by playing the correct way. I also almost never pulled the full house when keeping 2 pair. I guess I just got lucky because one session I pulled the 4 deuces after tossing 3 to a straight flush and just keeping the lone deuces and several times I would pull wild royals, 5 of a finds, and straight flushes by playing the wrong way. In all of those cases, my session was going badly and each one ended up even or better playing the incorrect way. Go figure.

    

[FloridaPhil]

The best way to figure this out is to use Dancer's VPW.  Set the software to max coin (5) quarters and use the warning mode.  For example, taking the A with another face card without a deuce and going for a royal shows an error of about 3-5 cents.  This isn't too bad as the deuces commonly bring you a win of some kind and a natural royal has happened to us this way three times so far.   You will get a lot more wild royals this way also.  I wouldn't do too many of the other things you mentioned.  Keeping two deuces and not going for a straight flush will hurt you as a straight flush pays 45 coins in Airport Deuces.  Tossing three to a straight flush without a deuce is a better idea as it's a longer shot to hit one of these.   I mostly play by the book except for the above mentioned royal shot.   I'm not a Bob Dancer clone, but as a recreational player some slight changes are just more fun and worth it just for the excitement. 

[olds442jetaway]

Thanks Phil. I had already checked on Wolf vp poker and see the various penalties. I guess the only way to know for sure is to write all of the penalties down for the various incorrect holds from the program and keep track of them on paper as you are playing. Sounds like too much work for me for now. I do know someone who plays this way all of the time and they are actually ahead for the year. Of course that would in the big scheme of things still be considered short term results. I tried to go back to job only for a few weeks and just couldn't stand the boredom and the quadless sessions really ticked me off. I understand sessions without deuces happen fairly often and that doesn't bother me nearly as much. Funny how some people can handle playing job all of the time and like it and others like you and I and maybe LL like the deuces wild game so much. As much as I like the possibility of big hits on DDB and TDB games, I just cannot get used to and stand the huge swings and quick evaporation of that day's bankroll. To each his own I guess....Oh, I forgot. There is one thing on the deuces game that gets my blood pressure up a little and that is going the entire session holding 2 deuces and ending up with nothing but your money back on the draw. That does happen once in awhile unfortunately, but not as often as quadless job sessions.

[FloridaPhil]

Deuces is normally a pretty mind game as far as bankroll swings is concerned.  I can usually manage the damage by using the $50 cash out rule.  Not counting natural royals, the frequency of quad deuces will determine if you go home positive for the day.  As you know you can sometimes go a long time between quad deuces, but the game will catch back up with one about every 5,000 hands or so.  It takes some discipline to keep from upping your  bet when your winning and giving it back.    My wife never does this and she's ahead this year.  Some players go for the quad deuce all the time, but I think it hurts you in the long run.  Standard strategy is the best way to go, but there nothing wrong with playing the game any way you want.   Just don't post it on this website or the Gods of video poker will shoot you down.

[FAA]

Olds, I always bemoan JOB after a quadless session. But after a two quad day I can't wait to hit the machines again. Some smokers like low tar, some full tar. Vegans and carnivores. There is product to empty everyone's funds. 

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=FAA]There is product to empty everyone's funds.[/quote] How true! 

[olds442jetaway]

Ditto...At least in my case it is not smoking,drinking,drugs, or girls.... However, most enjoyable hobbies can do the same as vp too. I never have seemed to find the cheap ones however... ...Well there is one( cartoon art and drawing) that I keep putting off by not registering for those adult ed courses. Next semester hopefully.

[FAA]

Drinking would compromise my VP decisions. I do often order one after a quad to celebrate. I envision upgrading to champagne tout de suite après RF. The small bottle given with a mimosa shall suffice.

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=olds442jetaway]Ditto...At least in my case it is not smoking,drinking,drugs, or girls.... [/quote]Wow... just had a flashback to the seventies!